Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 551 Monday, May 4th 1992 (C) Copyright 1992 Paranet Information Service. All Rights Reserved. Today's Topics: Whitley Strieber New Military Plane? Triangle Sighting Triangle Sighting New Military Plane? Crop Circles Crop Circles Re: New Military Plane? Articles Addenda to GB Skyquakes Paper Crop Circle near A34 in Hampshire CE5 The first Circle of the 1992 Season? Crop Circles 'Alien Spacecraft' Blasted by Hunters CE 369 Triangle Sighting Colin Andrews road flares Re: Articles Black aircraft Crop Circles Re: road flares Re: road flares Klass vs Ecker New Military Plane? Re: Black aircraft ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anson.Kennedy@p0.f25.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Anson Kennedy) Subject: Whitley Strieber Date: 28 Apr 92 02:49:00 GMT I just posted a question on the FidoNet UFO Echo, but figured I ask it here, too. Does anyone have a copy of Strieber's "farewell letter" he sent with the final issue of his Communion Letter (the one in which he was highly critical of abduction researchers)? Thanks, --- Anson -- Anson Kennedy - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Anson.Kennedy@p0.f25.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim.Speiser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser) Subject: New Military Plane? Date: 27 Apr 92 15:06:00 GMT I'm surprised that I haven't seen any mention here of the report on NBC news a few nights back regarding a possible new military aircraft, possibly nuclear powered, possibly operating out of Nellis or Edwards, and possibly related to some of the triangle sightings out west? The name I have heard for this project is TIMBER WIND. Anyone know anything about this? Jim -- Jim Speiser - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Triangle Sighting Date: 28 Apr 92 00:59:00 GMT > Well, you didn't see an odd light far away at night doing something that > may or may not be unusual - you saw a fully structured physical > _object_. You didn't explicitly say so but I think it is reasonable to > assume that you have no doubts that you saw wh > Probably the best way to classify myself is as a Skeptical Believer, > (whatever _that_ means ). I can easily classify myself that way > because I've never seen/witnessed/experienced anything UFOlogical. You > have. > I could not honestly classify myself in that way if I had seen what you > describe. Not necessarily so. I classify myself as a skeptic, although I have seen something in the sky that I could not explain nor completely understand based upon *my* limited perception of the object. When I label myself and others as "skeptical," I mean that a person does not out-of-hand dismiss the possibility that a sighting has the possibility of being something extraordinary, although possibly prosaic. A "debunker," as Phil Klass called himself on his recent stay here in Denver, is someone who attaches an explanation to a sighting based upon either misperception or naturally occurring phenomena, even though a sighting of a truly Unidentified Flying Object had a physical structure and appeared to be under intelligent control. Unfortunately, the debunker route often insults and demonstrates that the so-called skeptic either lives in a state of denial, lacks perceptual intelligence and ability, or just plain failed at sandbox (Please, no flames). As far as my sighting is concerned, I have not begun to attempt to explain it yet. I have not compiled enough data to make a determination, or to even give an educated guess as to what it might have been, although I do know I saw something occupying physical space and time which did not appear to be an airplane in the conventional sense. And, I cannot completely rule out the possibility that what I saw may have been a conventional airplane simply banked in such an attitude that it looked like a triangular object. I will say that I am about 99% certain that it was not the latter. I clearly saw the outline of the object, and the lighting configuration. This alone was not something that I have ever seen on a conventional aircraft. Something is wrong with this editor. I will answer the second part of your question in the next message. Mike -- Michael Corbin - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Triangle Sighting Date: 28 Apr 92 05:27:00 GMT > So, I guess the question (above) can be found somewhere in the > following: Given that you've seen a _real_ physical object, how > does/will this affect you in regards to previous sighting reports? > (Think about all the single-person/single-event reports tha > So, I guess I'm really asking two questions: 1) How is this situation > going to affect you moving forward, and; 2) The real question, which > surfaces the more I think about this and is important to me not only > because I value your opinion but because I als John. Could you please re-transmit your original posting to me via netmail? As you can see, something cut off your message in some places. I will answer your questions now, though. To answer question 1: This will not affect me at all. I simply have archived this sighting in my mind and will continue to look for corroborating evidence or testimony from others that may have seen it. If other witnesses come forward, then we have a better case. I will wait until I see the entire message to comment further. Mike -- Michael Corbin - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: New Military Plane? Date: 28 Apr 92 09:28:00 GMT > I'm surprised that I haven't seen any mention here of the report on NBC > news a few nights back regarding a possible new military aircraft, > possibly nuclear powered, possibly operating out of Nellis or Edwards, > and possibly related to some of the triangle sightings out west? The > name I have heard for this project is TIMBER WIND. Anyone know anything > about this? Although I didn't see the news clip on the tube, I heard that it was the Project Aurora. It is not triangular-shaped, but more diamond-shaped. It looked to one person who saw the clip like an arc welder flying through the sky. Mike -- Michael Corbin - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Crop Circles Date: 28 Apr 92 09:29:00 GMT * Forwarded from "Alt.Alien.Visitors" * Originally from Chris Rutkowski * Originally dated 04-27-92 18:56 From: umrutko0@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Chris Rutkowski) Date: 27 Apr 92 14:48:20 GMT Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada Message-ID: <1992Apr27.144820.8202@ccu.umanitoba.ca> Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors FROM: NAICCR (North American Institute for Crop Circle Research) An American representative of the British CCCS has informed NAICCR that a new, 1992, crop circle formation has already been found. The location is Jonesboro, Georgia (?). It was found on or about April 20, 1992. Does anyone on the NET have any further infomation? NAICCR is interested in learning details of any and all circles and traces found in North America. In addition, recent UFO activity in New Hampshire is alleged to have included crop circles or traces. Can anyone post details here or e-mail directly to NAICCR at the .sig below? Full credit will be given in NAIICR Reports. -- Chris Rutkowski - umrutko0@ccu.umanitoba.ca Royal Astronomical Society of Canada University of Manitoba - Winnipeg, Canada -- Michael Corbin - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anson.Kennedy@p0.f25.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Anson Kennedy) Subject: Crop Circles Date: 29 Apr 92 01:10:00 GMT > FROM: NAICCR (North American Institute for Crop Circle Research) > An American representative of the British CCCS has informed NAICCR that > a new, 1992, crop circle formation has already been found. The > location is Jonesboro, Georgia (?). It was found on or about April 20, > 1992. Does anyone on the NET have any further infomation? NAICCR is > interested in learning details of any and all circles and traces found > in North America. I checked with the Assistant State Director of MUFON in Georgia and he has not heard about this. I might also add that no Georgia MICAP member has heard about it, either [that would be me :-) ]. --- Anson -- Anson Kennedy - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Anson.Kennedy@p0.f25.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird) Subject: Re: New Military Plane? Date: 29 Apr 92 05:59:00 GMT Hiya, Heard a snatch of radio news about some kind of stealth plane. Maybe I'll see something in the paper... Linda -- Linda Bird - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Keith Basterfield) Subject: Articles Date: 26 Apr 92 16:25:00 GMT Linda, thanks for those most interesting MUFON Journal articles, which I had not previously read. I thought that Dan Wright's piece about some abduction researchers within MUFON not sharing their data with the general membership was quite a valid point. If we are to work on the abduction phenomenon togther we need data to be shared. -- Keith Basterfield - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wam.umd.edu!infinity Subject: Addenda to GB Skyquakes Paper Date: 29 Apr 92 15:33:00 GMT From: David E. Coleman Addenda to the Gulf Breeze Skyquakes Speculations I. Earthquake lights are discussed in _Lightning, Auroras, Nocturnal Lights, and Related Luminous Phenomena_, compiled by William R. Corliss, The Sourcebook Project (PO Box 107, Glen Arm, MD 21057), 1982, pp. 110-115, where 57 examples are noted, taken from 58 references. On p. 110, Corliss summarizes the phenomena: 'Anomaly Evaluation. If all earthquake lights could be explained in terms of coincident thunderstorms, power- and gas-line phenomena, and even the spontaneous ignition of releases of natural gas, we would have no anomaly to explain. However, the fireballs, sky flashes, and aurora-like beams common to many earthquakes suggest that some other agent, probably electrical in nature, is at work here. Rating: 2. Possible Explanations. The variety of earthquake lights may infer the existence of strong electrical fields, due perhaps to the piezoelectric effect as rocks are stressed by earthquake forces. The measured properties of rocks and the stresses exerted do not, however, seem to be adequate to explain the observations. Furthermore, earthquake lights have been seen at sea; a fact that weakens the piezoelectric theory while supporting the natural-gas-eruption theory. Another possibility is that the gases and dust injected into the atmosphere during a quake may alter the air's electrical properties, stimulating luminous phenomena and perhaps the hazes and thunderstorms that are reported so frequently. Earthquake lights may owe their existence to all of the mechanisms mentioned above.' II. I take back the suggestion that the Tunguska event may have been related to sky quakes. A flashing, meteoric fireball was seen racing to Tunguska by many observers. III. There is an article I meant to discuss that appears on p. 16, Discover, April, 1992, which notes a California researcher trying to explain the earthquake lights phenomenon in terms of 'sonoluminescence.' More galactic thoughts from: Amicitia Subjugat Omnia Hweohthte... (Hwe-oath-T) ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- David E. Coleman infinity@wam.umd.edu 8125 48th Ave, Apt. 612 College Park, MD 20740 1-(301)-474-7424 ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clink.co.uk!mmdf Subject: Crop Circle near A34 in Hampshire Date: 29 Apr 92 23:21:13 GMT From: Server Systems Ltd Well I'm back on ParaNet after a couple of months and am looking forward to the months ahead. I have just received a message that there is a crop circle in a rape field next to the A34 south of Sutton Scotney, near Winchester. I have as yet not managed to see it as it is now dark but will visit this tommorrow. Perhaps this is the first of the 1992 season, or a sign that D+D are back. Regards, Robert -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: well.sf.ca.us!ddrasin Subject: CE5 Date: 30 Apr 92 13:20:10 GMT From: Dan Drasin + From: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Keith Basterfield) + English crop circle researcher Colin Andrews was in Adelaide + recently. During his talk he referred to the following incident + having taken place in the US only a few weeks back. He stated that a + group of researchers had been experimenting with lasers shining them + into the night sky. The lasers were configured to make a triangular + shape in the sky. Colin, in his talk, stated that 5 UFOs had + appeared and entered the traingle. 2 of them hovered as if they were + going to land. Colin stated that 3 separate video films were taken + of all of this. Has anyone any information on this momentous event? Keith, the location of this event was Gulf Breeze, Florida. The group was led by Dr. Steven Greer, a physician from Asheville, North Carolina. There is much, much more to this story and to what Greer has been doing in recent months. More about this will be made public within the next month or two. Hang in there, folks, and stay tuned. Dan Drasin ddrasin@well.sf.ca.us -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clink.co.uk!mmdf Subject: The first Circle of the 1992 Season? Date: 30 Apr 92 23:14:16 GMT From: Server Systems Ltd I have just returned from what I believe to be the first crop circle of the 1992 season. This circle, which is early for the 'season' is located along the A30 between Sutton Scotney and Winchester. This is the road that runs parallel with the southbound A34. It is a plain 10 metre circle in rape. It lies about 100 yds up a slight hill but is veru visible from the main roads. This formation is close to the edge of the field ancould be accessable from a tractor tramline nearby but I don't imagine this to be a hoax, famous last words, as some of the rape stalks are still standing in and around the centre. Guess this is the start of another uupredictable year but one things for sure, there is going to be a spotlight on two not so young gents. Sutton Scotney is about 5 miles north of Winchester and was the site of a formation in the latter part of the 80's. I wonder who will go out and declare it 'for real' first. Not me! Regards, Robert -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anson.Kennedy@p0.f25.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Anson Kennedy) Subject: Crop Circles Date: 1 May 92 01:41:00 GMT > FROM: NAICCR (North American Institute for Crop Circle Research) > An American representative of the British CCCS has informed NAICCR that > a new, 1992, crop circle formation has already been found. The > location is Jonesboro, Georgia (?). It was found on or about April 20, > 1992. Does anyone on the NET have any further infomation? NAICCR is > interested in learning details of any and all circles and traces found > in North America. I will also add that, in addition to the local MUFON and MICAP chapters being unaware of this CC, I have checked with local newspapers and *they* have not had any reports of any sort of crop vandalism. I'm now checking with local police. --- Anson -- Anson Kennedy - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Anson.Kennedy@p0.f25.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Roger Black Subject: 'Alien Spacecraft' Blasted by Hunters Date: 1 May 92 05:18:56 GMT In comp.risks on Usenet News, Bear Giles of the National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration's Boulder Labs writes: + Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1992 12:54:15 -0600 + Subject: Risks of a modern weatherman + (From the bulletin board down the hall...) + Network Wind Profiler Severely Damaged + A wind profiler in OAR's Wind Profiler Demonstration Network (WPDN) was + severely damaged by several shot-gun blasts late last week. On March + 28, just before sunrise, two men and one woman were pheasant hunting in + southern Nebraska [and] came across the McCook wind profiler and + mistook it for an alien spacecraft. Frightened, they fired a number of + shots damaging the profiler antenna and the electronics shed. + Furthermore, a Forecast Systems Lab (FSL) technician who was in the + shed conducting routine system checks was taken hostage by the + hunters. After being held captive for nearly two hours, the + technician's partner arrived and explained to the hunters what the + profiler really was. The hunters then fled and so far, they have not + been apprehended by law enforcement officials. Profiler damage is + estimated at $150,000. And people wonder why 'aliens' might be reluctant to make contact ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Black jrblack@shemtaia.weeg.uiowa.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Burke@f9.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (John Burke) Subject: CE 369 Date: 1 May 92 08:21:00 GMT Keith Basterfield writes: > > + English crop circle researcher Colin Andrews was in Adelaide > + recently. During his talk he referred to the following incident > + having taken place in the US only a few weeks back. He stated that a > + group of researchers had been experimenting with lasers shining them > + into the night sky. The lasers were configured to make a triangular > + shape in the sky. Colin, in his talk, stated that 5 UFOs had > + appeared and entered the traingle. 2 of them hovered as if they were > + going to land. Colin stated that 3 separate video films were taken > + of all of this. Has anyone any information on this momentous event? And Dan Drasin responds: > > Keith, the location of this event was Gulf Breeze, Florida. The group > was led by Dr. Steven Greer, a physician from Asheville, North > Carolina. There is much, much more to this story and to what Greer > has been doing in recent months. More about this will be made public > within the next month or two. Hang in there, folks, and stay tuned. > > Dan Drasin > ddrasin@well.sf.ca.us Gulf Breeze? Yeech! If these videos were so extraordinary, we probably would have seen them on TV by now (at least on one of the tabloid shows). Why would we have to wait a month to see them? I'm beginning to suspect that the flare balloon technique has been enhanced to the point where they can now be directed into a triangular target area. To that, I can only say WHO-RAY!! > More about this will be made public within the next month or two. Sounds like "more of the same" to me, but to all of you who are excited by this: Enjoy! -- John -- John Burke - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Burke@f9.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks) Subject: Triangle Sighting Date: 28 Apr 92 06:27:02 GMT >> Your description closely matches what Jerry W. and others saw in >> Alabama about two months ago. > Can you send me a file on this John? I don't have a file, just recollections of a message Jerry posted a while back. I *think* I posted it into INFO.PARANET back then. I'll ask Jerry to whip up something. Also, could you re-post your original message about it (already maint-killed here) so I could pass it along to him? jbh -- John Hicks - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks) Subject: Colin Andrews Date: 28 Apr 92 07:40:00 GMT > Colin stated that 3 separate > video films were taken of all of this. Has anyone any information on > this momentous event? Haven't heard a peep, on the nets, TV or anything. jbh -- John Hicks - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks) Subject: road flares Date: 28 Apr 92 07:42:01 GMT > balloon-borne road flares. So far, spectral "smears" produced on videotape via diffraction grating do *not* match, even remotely. About all I know about that, for now. jbh -- John Hicks - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird) Subject: Re: Articles Date: 2 May 92 03:45:00 GMT Hi Keith, Happy that you liked the articles! Has the new Vallee book about UFO's in Russia hit the stands down there yet? Linda -- Linda Bird - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Keith Basterfield) Subject: Black aircraft Date: 30 Apr 92 03:05:00 GMT A colleague of mine here in Australia informs me that he heard a TV news Bulletin recently about "Black aircraft." He says the item stated that the USAF has admitted that they possess new advanced aircraft that can hover and also travel 5000 mph. Has anyone knowledge of recent revelations along these lines? Thanks for any info. -- Keith Basterfield - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir.Godic@f7.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Vladimir Godic) Subject: Crop Circles Date: 3 May 92 05:33:00 GMT A few nights ago, Clive Robinson (a late night news program on Australian TV) had on Colin Andrews and, much to our amazement, gave him a spectacularly fair, almost indulgent, interview. Robinson smiled beningly at Andrew's assertion that: a) "intelligence" is behind the circles. b) The British government know more than they're letting (inference of cover- up). c) The British government set up Doug and Dave hoax claim as a way of discrediting the subject with a view of broadening their inferred cover-up. d) Andrew quizzed Doug and Dave on a very recent and complex circle and when asked how they made it, they thought hard for 6 seconds and they admitted they didn't make that one. The inference here was that Doug and Dave are responsible for virtually none of the circles. The extraordinary thing about the interview was that Robinson very nicely and gently asked Andrew if he had vested interest in keeping crop circles mystique alive re his income. Andrew said the first book on the subject, he wrote, was a spectacular best seller and brought in sufficient money for him to quit his highly paid engineering job to pursue subject full time. However, he went to say that there wasn't enough money from this one book to support him for the rest of his life and there wasn't enough money on the lecture circuit. Andrew said that the Tully (Queensland, Australia, 1966) had a "glut" of crop circles, which annoyed us. This was another rather clever bit of dialogue because of the UFO sighting at Tully and the inference that UFO type intelligence must be involved in the U.K. circles. If Andrew had gotten up and said, yes, all these complex circles are very likely the result of Doug and Dave's nocturnal mischief, but the original simple circles, and groups of circles, remain unexplained, - we'd have said "fair enough." - The simple circles reach back in recorded history as far as 16th century and it's the mystery of of these that I am trying to solve, then again, we'd have said fair enough. But, if you think about it psychologically, it's not as half as titillating as a government cover-up and the spectacular circles in fact being real and the result of "intelligence." -- Vladimir Godic - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Vladimir.Godic@f7.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim.Speiser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser) Subject: Re: road flares Date: 2 May 92 14:53:00 GMT In a message to Jim Speiser <04-28-92 00:42> John Hicks wrote: JH> > balloon-borne road flares. JH> JH> So far, spectral "smears" produced on videotape via diffraction JH> grating do *not* match, even remotely. About all I know about that, Can you find out, 1) Who took the videos, 2) Who analyzed them, 3) Who reported the above, 4) Has that been independently confirmed? I just can't help thinking we're getting a lot of smoke from the same old sources. Jim -- Jim Speiser - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird) Subject: Re: road flares Date: 3 May 92 03:48:00 GMT Hi John, I just thought of something: if those lights at Gulf Breeze are balloon-carried road flares and they are launched over a body of water, wouldn't it stand to reason that one of these things would eventually wash ashore? (I'm SO brilliant! ) Or, is it possible to launch them, and reel them back in? Thanks! Linda -- Linda Bird - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anson.Kennedy@p0.f25.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Anson Kennedy) Subject: Klass vs Ecker Date: 4 May 92 00:17:00 GMT Do you have tapes of the Klass/Ecker face-off? In any case, how did it go? --- Anson -- Anson Kennedy - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Anson.Kennedy@p0.f25.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks) Subject: New Military Plane? Date: 3 May 92 06:56:01 GMT > I'm surprised that I haven't seen any mention here of the report on NBC > news a few nights back regarding a possible new military aircraft, I missed that one, although someone on UFO is going to post a transcript. Saw a bleep on CNN about seismologists having detected the "signature" of what's possibly the long-rumored Aurora. jbh -- John Hicks - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim.Speiser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser) Subject: Re: Black aircraft Date: 4 May 92 04:11:00 GMT Keith: A report was seen here recently on NBC News regarding some Black Aircraft under development in Nevada, possibly under the project name of TIMBRE WIND. However, I did not see the report, and I don't know what flight characteristics were mentioned. There have been rumors in the press, on and off for about a year and a half now, about diamond- and triangle-shaped craft being seen in the vicinity of some of the high-tech aerodromes, such as Edwards AFB, Nellis AFB, and Area 51. Aviation Week Magazine has had at least two such reports, all based on ground sightings by independent observers. Funny how, once its put in the context of "possible secret government aircraft", it becomes OK to run such reports in the mainstream media.... Jim -- Jim Speiser - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG ******************************************************************************** For permission to reproduce or redistribute this digest, contact: DOMAIN Michael.Corbin@paranet.org UUCP scicom!paranet.org!Michael.Corbin ********To have your comments in the next issue, send electronic mail to******** 'infopara' at the following address: UUCP {ncar,isis,csn}!scicom!infopara DOMAIN infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com For administrative requests (subscriptions, back issues) send to: UUCP {ncar,isis,csn}!scicom!infopara-request DOMAIN infopara-request@scicom.alphacdc.com To obtain back issues by anonymous ftp, connect to: DOMAIN ftp.uiowa.edu (directory /archives/paranet) Mail to private Paranet/Fidonet addresses from the newsletters: DOMAIN firstname.lastname@paranet.org UUCP scicom!paranet.org!firstname.lastname ******************The**End**of**Info-ParaNet**Newsletter************************