Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 554 Wednesday, May 20th 1992 (C) Copyright 1992 Paranet Information Service. All Rights Reserved. Today's Topics: ROAD FLARES Mach6 Spy Plane Books: Oldies but goodies Gulf Breeze skeptics etc. Re: ROAD FLARES Gb Lights Lockheed Rumors Gulf Breeze road flares Chinese scientists explore UFO mysteries .... Re: Another Hoax..ed "the Toymaker" Walters Aussie sightings Aussie UFOs Re: Ufo-pics From Ed Walters,New Arguments UFO Related Shows ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks) Subject: ROAD FLARES Date: 13 May 92 05:56:06 GMT > against the wind, jiggle it back and forth, let it run out and stop etc. Now to stir the pot....I've heard that someone saw Ed Walters' truck parked near the fishing pier at the foot of the bridge at about the same time the folks at Shoreline Park were watching a red light. FWIW. *But* there's usually assorted people fishing all along the old bridge/ fishing pier, so I think it'd be very difficult to pull it off from that area without being noticed. But a _boat_ would be just dandy...... jbh -- John Hicks - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks) Subject: Mach6 Spy Plane Date: 13 May 92 05:59:07 GMT > the shapes were on the end of what appeared to be very short > connecting "wings" on either side of the fuselage. He said it made a > loud > whining or humming sound, moved very slowly and then zoomed away. That sounds like a V-22 Osprey. The engine pods at the wingtips swivel vertically and the aircraft becomes a helicopter; when they're horizontal it flies like an ordinary airplane. I *think* the Marines and Coast Guard have them in service now. jbh -- John Hicks - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks) Subject: Books: Oldies but goodies Date: 13 May 92 06:04:08 GMT > It doesn't appear he is going to mention "legitimate abductees" He gets into that in _Revelations_. The premise is that at least some of them are indeed abductees...but not by space aliens. He proposes that some legit "abductees" may have been snatched by government or pseudo-government agencies for whatever experimental reasons. He does present some support for this idea, but it's been so long since I read _Revelations_ that I've forgotten the particulars. jbh -- John Hicks - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks) Subject: Gulf Breeze Date: 13 May 92 06:15:09 GMT > asked what came out of the finding of the model in Ed's old house? Here's the gist of is, as best I can recall from conversations with Bruce Maccabee and Rex Salisberry. Ed's claim is that the model was made of house plans that weren't drawn until *after* the incidents. He says that apparently someone rummaged through his trash can and found them. There's no specific identifier in the plans (cutout pieces, actually) of the date or location of the planned house; there's just a number which apparently indicates the total square footage of the house. Ed says the plans were drawn for a client, who subsequently built the house and has provided a statement which says that he commissioned the design on a date later than Ed's encounters. Rex Salisberry told me that some believe the plans were actually for another house of the same total square footage, on another street, and designed for another client. This design was done *before* Ed's incidents. Apparently there's not enough of the plans left to determine which house they were for. So now Bruce claims that his investigations confirm that the plans were for the later-designed house, and the other side says they were for the previously -designed house. So far as I've heard, no one has yet conclusively proved it one way or the other. An interesting side note.....the model closely matches the sketch in Ed's book, and contains some features that do *not* appear in the photos. Another note....the current owner of Ed's old house had found the model several months earlier than the news hit the media, and told no one. *Shortly before* the MUFON Symposium was held in Pensacola, a newspaper reporter approached the homeowner and specifically asked him if he'd found a model. Curious. More than you ever wanted to know, right? ;-) jbh -- John Hicks - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks) Subject: skeptics etc. Date: 13 May 92 06:17:10 GMT > It is real hard to be an honest Skeptic these days. The Debunking > Faction considers honest Skeptics to be Believers, which I find > extremely > insulting, and the Believers treat honest Skeptics as Debunkers, which > is about equally insulting... If you've been following my piddling around with the Gulf Breeze thing for a while, you know I've been getting the best of both worlds. ;-) I once had both sides a little irked at me. jbh -- John Hicks - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Pete Porro) Subject: Re: ROAD FLARES Date: 13 May 92 14:51:05 GMT As usual I'm not saying this is the answer, just a possible explination. Hoaxers and pranksters have been around forever, not just in the UFO community. Piltdown man was a great one for archaeology. I used to have a book that refered to it, that was published before it was discovered to be a hoax. Most science is willing to adjust theories and wisdom when new information alters old ideas. Meanwhile some people hang on to the old information even after it's been proven to be in error. (Holes in the poles, flat earth, Philly Project, Gods from outer space, Bermuda Triangle, etc.) I could see no reason for ED to be sending things up. He's too well known and would be suspect. I think someone else is out having fun. One thing that bothers me is that they appear when film crews are scheduled, or when wather groups are going to be present. Sort of like a command preformance. It's highly suspecious. One video has someone swinging the camera around, but the object stands still. Another they show is slow motion of the light flickering white. I'm looking forward to the Fox show this weekend which I think will have the guys with the lasers that they said attracted UFO's when they projected images up in the sky. Would this be a way to bait UFO's? Interesting idea. -- Pete Porro - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don.Sudduth@p0.f26.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Don Sudduth) Subject: Gb Lights Date: 15 May 92 13:26:00 GMT > By the way, when Greer asked the lady that had 120 > previous UFO sightings > what she did, she said she just watched. Greer is > here to tell us we need to > make contact: CE5 == human initiated contact. DON'T > JUST WATCH - DO SOME- > THING! Wave, send out thoughts, blink lights - DO > SOMETHING - don't just sit > there and watch like a bunch of cows! Why does it sound like someone is playing quite a game with Dr. Greer? People may be seeing something in Gulf Breeze, but I'm not convinced at all that its extraterrestrial. -- Don Sudduth - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Don.Sudduth@p0.f26.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shemtaia.weeg.uiowa.edu!jrblack Subject: Lockheed Rumors Date: 15 May 92 21:40:09 GMT From: James Roger Black In alt.sci.physics.new-theories on Usenet News, noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring) writes: + Hello, + + I talked today with an electrical engineer who worked at Lockheed for a while, + but is no longer there. He said that there are rumors circulating at Lockheed + about the U.S. Government developing very advanced flying craft with new + propulsion systems that were successfully reverse-engineered from a supposed + alien spacecraft which crashed (?Roswell), and that several companies, + including Lockheed, are helping out in the engineering of such craft. Test + flights are supposedly taking place at several of the top-secret bases (he + mentioned Tonopah). This engineer had also heard of 'Aurora', but believed + these rumors to not be for that 'project', rather for a post-Aurora, or + something to that effect. + + Of course, I've heard of similar rumors on alt.aliens.visitors for a while, + but this engineer is not your flaky new-ager who'll believe in anything; he + is quite conservative. He is skeptical of the truth of these rumors, but + commented nevertheless that he finds the extent of the rumors, and other + information he didn't want to share with me, to be mighty strange, and he has + decided to withhold judgement until he gets more information. + + Anyway, my question, especially to those who work for Lockheed and other + military/aerospace contractors: have you heard similar rumors? (Of course, + if the rumors were to be true, and you knew something about it, you wouldn't + tell. But if you don't have firsthand knowledge, then you're probably free + to at least share what rumors are flying around at your company.) + + I look forward to feedback from everybody. Even if the rumors are untrue (the + more likely scenario), it certainly adds spice to life thinking about them. + + Jon Noring + + -- + ============================================================================= + | Jon Noring | noring@netcom.netcom.com | 'The dogs bark, but the | + | JKN International | IP : 192.100.81.100 | caravan moves on.' | + | 1312 Carlton Place | Phone : (510) 294-8153 | 'Pack your lunch, sit in | + | Livermore, CA 94550 | V-Mail: (510) 862-1101 | the bushes, and watch.' | + ============================================================================= -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: watson.acc.Virginia.EDU!JBB Subject: Gulf Breeze road flares Date: 15 May 92 21:41:49 GMT From: JBB@watson.acc.Virginia.EDU Re: Gulf Breeze 'road flare' controversy During last years' SSE (Society for Scientific Exploration) meeting held here at the University of Virginia, Dr. Bruce Maccabee presented a slide taken of a Gulf Breeze 'road flare' by an amateur photographer. The camera, Bruce reported, was a conventional 35mm single-lens reflex and, if I recall correctly, sported a 200mm f5.6 lens. This particular photograph had been taken with a 4 second shutter speed. Precise details regarding camera support escape me at the moment but I believe it was was hand-held with the photographer resting his arms or hands against a balcony rail for stability. Immediately before, during and after the exposure, the subjective appearance of the object was that of a some- what dim red light characteristic of many post-Ed GB sightings. As one might expect under these conditions the photograph showed not a single circular light source but a serpentine trace as the object and/or camera shifted position over the course of the exposure with respect to the camera's initial alignment. The most salient feature of the resulting trace was that it's hue was not uniformly red as expected. Instead, it appeared chromatically 'banded' in a regular way as though the source frequency itself was being systematically and periodically swept across the visible spectrum. During his presentation, Bruce pointed out that there were over 200 such bands within the serpentine trace and I recall seeing several dark gaps which I tend now to interpret as an indication that the source frequency extented at times beyond the visible spectrum. Of course, this is merely speculation after the fact as I have made no measurements on the actual trace and memory serves poorly when one attempt to make a point. Still, it was a curious photograph and I know of no road flares or any other 'simple' source for that matter that would behave in a similar fashion. On the other hand, one shouldn't rule out the possibility. Comments anyone? Joseph Burch jbb@virginia.edu Academic Computing Center (804) 982-4699 University of Virginia -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 'Leping N Zha' Subject: Chinese scientists explore UFO mysteries Date: Fri, 15 May 92 16:36:18 -0400 From: 'Leping N Zha' Keywords: international, space, science, ufo, human interest BEIJING (UPI) -- Chinese scientists are huddling this week to explore the latest mysteries of unidentified flying objects, from reports of sightings and abductions to claims that Chinese mystics are in contact with life on other planets. The nearly 200 researchers from around the country are meeting in Beijing at a conference sponsored by the China UFO Research Society, the national organization that coordinates studies in China of ``fei die,'' which in Chinese means ``flying saucer.'' The society, known by its English acronym CURO, is engaged in research that spans the gamut from cold science to the weird and wacky, including efforts to speak to outer space without all the high-tech gadgetry employed by Western researchers. ``One of our important missions is to establish a way for people on Earth to communicate with other planets without resorting to modern communications methods,'' said Wang Changting, the research society's affable director. Nearly 5,000 UFO-type sightings have been reported in China since the late 1970s, with all but around 200 later discounted as natural or man- made objects such as weather phenonema and aircraft. The unsolved cases include sightings of floating basketballs, orange- lit washbasins and flying straw hats. Around 40 of those are the ``close encounters'' variety, with reports of contact or kidnappings by vaguely described extraterrestrials. In one case, a teacher in eastern Tianjin reported seeing a shimmering ball overhead as he bicycled around a park at night. He lost consciousness and awoke the next morning at the park gate to find the time on his watch an hour behind the actual time. A month later, he suddenly recalled having been abducted onto a strange craft by two short beings in unidentifiable space suits. Along with those reports, and research into related topics like atmospheric phenomena, some of the 3,500 CURO members nationwide are studying claims by Chinese mystics that they can locate UFOs or communicate with aliens. Some claim to use ``qigong,'' a practice that marshals the Chinese concept of life energy, to make contact. Although qigong is an accepted exercise discipline, adherents also make fantastic claims of supernatural powers or faith healing ability. ``Sometimes we cannot mix Western reality and Oriental belief,'' shrugged Wang. ``Of course there are some illogical things involved, but the line between science and mysticism cannot be separated only as illogic.'' Among other areas of research are theoretical and practical studies of space flight, the possibility of life on other planets and the potential impact of UFOs on the Earth's environment. UFO research is taken seriously in China. Several years ago, a UFO sighting over an open air film show in rural south China sparked a stampede by panicked villagers that left two people dead and 300 injured. The Chinese military, which sometimes scrambles air force jets to try to catch a glimpse of UFOs, conducts its own UFO studies and maintains contact with CURO researchers, Wang said. But not even scientists are immune to the more outlandish aspects of UFOs, he added, noting a report by a CURO researcher who claimed he had been ``invited'' aboard a space craft and taken to a planet thousands of light years away. ``This man was a scientist, so we don't believe that what he told us is altogether nonsense,'' Wang said. ``But we can't explain it.'' -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 'Leping N Zha' Subject: .... Date: Fri, 15 May 92 16:36:28 -0400 From: 'Leping N Zha' Chinese and Soviet Scientists Cooperate to Confirm Existence of the 'Jinluo' Line ( Meridian Channels ) Reflexology (manipulating areas on the feet to affect the rest of the body) was listed as 'near bizarre' in a recent Times cover article on the alternative therapies [Claudia Wallis, 'Why New Age Medicine is Catching On', November 4, 1991], compared with the 'more credible' treatments like acupuncture, while in fact they are both based on the same ancient Chinese theory of 'Jinluo' system, the critical "meridian line network" which links virtually all the human (and animals as well reportedly) parts and passes the 'qi' through them to maintain one's health and vitality. These channels are also strongly believed by most Chinese parapsychological researchers as well as qigong masters as the pathway of the subtle energies which carries psi information [@i[L. Zha & T. MeConnell, 'Parapsychology in the People's Republic of China: 1979-1989', JASPR, 85, 119-143(1991)]]. There are huge number of papers on relations between Jinluo system and psi functions published in China since 1979. Some reported the ESP message's propagating speed along the lines as a typically 15 to 50 centimeters per second among the gifted EFHB (Exceptional Functions of Human Body, the Chinese term for ESP and PK) children and qigong masters [Zhuang Jianxiang, et al. (Inst. of Space Medico-Engineering, ISME), 'Measurements on Human Electromagnetic Energy Field', Ziran Zazhi(Chinese Nature Journal), 11, 43-51(1988)], a figure well above the control group's (0.1 to 14 centimeters per second). They observed that once the 'qi feelings' (usually tingling and bloating) reach their forehead, the desired ESP information appears as an 'image' on a special "TV screen" there. There are as many patients receiving the Jinlou-theory based traditional Chinese medicine therapy regularly today as those using Western medicine, in the country where one fourth the earth's population lives (many actually use both simultaneously since it is not unusual for a Western medicine doctor, 'Xi-Yi' as called, also prescripts the traditional Chinese 'Zhong-Yi' drugs and treatments along with their Aspirin pills, etc.), since they took the existence of the Jinluo system as an well established fact right from their birth. No convincing anatomic evidence of these channels was found so far, but the hot subject is carried in many state-funded Chinese traditional medicine centers, research institutes and universities. Professor Zhu Zongxiang, who leads a group in the Institute of Biophysics of the Chinese Academy of Science (Academia Sinica) claimed that from 17 year's careful studies in his lab, they had proven there are really 14 Jinluo lines in the human body by at least three independent and distinctive biophysical features, including low electric impedance, high electric potential, and acoustic or thermographic conductive characteristics as compared with the channel's adjacent areas. Also, as they reported, the most important meridian phenomenon, known as propagating sensation along channel (PSC, the current of numb, distensive feelings propagating during needling at an acupoint), has been extensively studied and verified by classical physiological experiments such as ECG, EEG, EMG (electromyograph), EGG (electrogastrograph), local impedance rheogram, etc. [Zhu Zongxiang, Xu Ruimin, et al., 'A Study on the Low Impedance characteristics of the Meridian Lines before and after amputation', Ziran Zazhi, 9, 281-287(1986); Zhu Zongxiang, 'The Advances and Prospect in Physiological and Biophysical Approaches to the Acupuncture Meridian System', Ziran Zazhi, 9, 327-332(1986); Zhu Zongxiang, et al., Acupuncture Research, 5, 308- (1980), 7, 169- , 238- , 299- (1982), 8, 73- (1983); etc.]. A detailed experimental channel location map had been produced by 1989. These claims have brought wide attentions among Chinese scientists and news media, partially because many of their claims are contradictory to another popular school of general believe that the channel system relies on the non-equilibrium physiological dynamic processes of the living body and therefore it will not be detectable @i[in vitro]. According to a recent report of the official Xinhua News Agency (September 26, Beijing, by Zhu Baihua), Chinese and Soviet scientists are cooperating closely to further reveal the reality of meridian channels by modern Biophysical means, and major progress has been achieved. >From the source, the research center headed by Professor Zhu signed a collaborate agreement with the Institute of Cytological Biophysics, Soviet Academy of Science, to lunch a series of morphological and biochemical experiments on Jinluo. The Soviet scientists would investigate the special structure of the channels by optical and electron microscopes, as well as to measure the lines objectively by biochemical (enzymic) methods. The news reports that the scientists from the both sides had made exchanges frequently since May, 1990. A delegation led by Professor Zhu visited the Soviet site in the past June, and Dr. Klamov (name translated from Chinese), director of the Cytological Biophysics Institute's radiology department, is working in the Professor Zhu's lab in Beijing. The report says the Russian researchers have successfully detected acupoints which on the whole agree with the Jinluo map made by Zhu's group. Also from other Xinhua reports, Dr. Qian Xuesen, the prominent Chinese rocketeer, Dr. Robert Jahn(PEAR, Princeton University)'s predecessor of the Goddard Professorship in the Cal. Tech. Jet Propulsion Laboratory who has been providing the crucial supports to China's psi studies from the very beginning, was granted by the party a one-of-the-kind 'Outstanding Scientific Contribution Award' which was described as the highest honor ever to a scientist in China. The Chinese government had also started a 'learn from Dr. Qian' movement throughout the nation's scientific and technological units. In the grant awarding ceremony attended by the party's top leaders, Dr. Qian mentioned that he will aim to further advance the 'Somatic Science' research in China, along with the many other mentioned subjects like the Biological Sciences and the System Engineering. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim.Speiser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser) Subject: Re: Another Hoax..ed 'the Toymaker' Walters Date: 15 May 92 15:11:00 GMT MC> Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors MC> MC> MC> Oh, boy. MC> MC> I have to admit that the photographs in Ed Walters' book "The Gulf MC> Breeze Sightings" looked very convincing to me, backed up as they This message should be in the next Continuum. Jim -- Jim Speiser - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Keith Basterfield) Subject: Aussie sightings Date: 15 May 92 00:04:00 GMT Thanks to people who have mentioned the sightings on the 28th April 1992 originating out of the central Coast of New South Wales, just north of Sydney. The news media here carried reports on one day and then the media interest died. I have initiated investigations via our local members of the UFORA network and hope to post details shortly. One complicating factor might be the joint Australian/US naval excercise off the coast that night. -- Keith Basterfield - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir.Godic@f7.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Vladimir Godic) Subject: Aussie UFOs Date: 17 May 92 04:35:00 GMT > * Forwarded from "UFO" > * Originally by Chris Rutkowski > * Originally to All > * Originally dated 28 Apr 1992, 9:34 > > According to the news today, there was a major UFO event with > multiple > witnesses in New South Wales last night (27 April 1992) [or > today, since we cross the Date Line, I think]. A large, round > object hovered over a small town, was seen by dozens of > witnesses and the local police received many calls from > =hysterical= people reporting their observations. After > hovering over town for a while, the object flashed red and green > lights, then flew away at high speed. > ............................................... > Since I know there are a few Aussies on this echo, maybe they > can post more information. Tell Mark Moravic I said hello. The US Navy, including aircraft carrier Independence, is in Australia for the Battle of Coral Sea (50th anniversary) celebrations - so anything goes at the moment. We are led to believe that most of these reports are due to aircraft and helicopters flying around. Other than that, there is a (unconfirmed) report of a large meterorite crashing on earth. We'll let you know when, and if, we receive any further reports. What we know for sure is that US sailors are having good time in Sydney. I'll tell Mark Moravec "hello" the next time I write to him. He is not on Paranet. -- Vladimir Godic - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Vladimir.Godic@f7.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom.Davis@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Tom Davis) Subject: Re: Ufo-pics From Ed Walters,New Arguments Date: 18 May 92 00:29:00 GMT Being a Star Trek fan, I am ashamed that I missed the obvious. Your comments are right on target. -- Tom Davis - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Tom.Davis@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark.Rodeghier@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Mark Rodeghier) Subject: UFO Related Shows Date: 15 May 92 21:39:00 GMT I'm not an expert on UFOs but it sure seems to me that there are a lot of TV shows on lately that have a common theme, that being UFO related topics. Is something going that I'm not aware of or has Hollywood latched onto another gold mine? Mark Not to be confused with the other Mark Rodeghier :-) -- Mark Rodeghier - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Mark.Rodeghier@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG ******************************************************************************** For permission to reproduce or redistribute this digest, contact: DOMAIN Michael.Corbin@paranet.org UUCP scicom!paranet.org!Michael.Corbin ********To have your comments in the next issue, send electronic mail to******** 'infopara' at the following address: UUCP {ncar,isis,csn}!scicom!infopara DOMAIN infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com For administrative requests (subscriptions, back issues) send to: UUCP {ncar,isis,csn}!scicom!infopara-request DOMAIN infopara-request@scicom.alphacdc.com To obtain back issues by anonymous ftp, connect to: DOMAIN ftp.uiowa.edu (directory /archives/paranet) Mail to private Paranet/Fidonet addresses from the newsletters: DOMAIN firstname.lastname@paranet.org UUCP scicom!paranet.org!firstname.lastname ******************The**End**of**Info-ParaNet**Newsletter************************