Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 577 Wednesday, July 29th 1992 (C) Copyright 1992 Paranet Information Service. All Rights Reserved. Today's Topics: FTP Archives Reorganized Phobos2-probe Ufo Pic-pro And Contra Stealth Manuscript AURORA & NASA? Air&Space article "Ogden Objects" "Ogden Objects" Re: K2 And The Phoenix Project "Ogden Objects" STRONG WORD OF CAUTION! Re: MJ-12 THE ULTIMATE Re: Closed Abductee Conference Air & Space article Let The Truth Be Told! Re: K2 And The Phoenix Project ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: csn!jrblack Subject: FTP Archives Reorganized Date: 24 Jul 92 19:18:00 GMT From: Roger Black The InfoPara FTP archives on the Internet have been reorganized in an effort to be more merciful to people with slow modems. Specifically, back issues of InfoPara (which are stored on Internet host 'grind.isca.uiowa.edu' in directory /info/paranet/infopara) are now divided into subdirectories as follows: 0xx issues 001-099 3xx issues 300-399 1xx issues 100-199 4xx issues 400-499 2xx issues 200-299 5xx issues 500-599 We have tested this new arrangement, and as far as we can tell everything is working correctly; but there is always the chance that we've missed something. If you encounter any problems with the FTP archives, please send a description of your difficulties via email to 'jrblack@csn.org' and we'll get it fixed. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ James Roger Black jrblack@csn.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Phobos2-probe Ufo Pic-pro And Contra Date: 24 Jul 92 20:44:03 GMT * Forwarded from "Alt.Alien.Visitors" * Originally from Stefan Hartmann * Originally dated 07-22-92 12:56 From: leo@zelator.in-berlin.de (Stefan Hartmann) Date: 21 Jul 92 10:02:03 GMT Organization: Puplic-Access-Xenix-System Message-ID: Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.astro,alt.alien.visitors,alt.paranormal Hi, I just have posted the mysterious phobos2-probe UFO-pic as a GIF-pic called phobufo.gif in the newsgroup: alt.binaries.pictures.misc I was asked in private email to do so, cause many people don't yet have any JPEG viewers ! Okay, but now the Pro and Contra: I enclose here to emails, which say it is only a particle hit or a CCD-chip error. Can anybody verify this ? Here comes the email I received: Date: Mon, 20 Jul 92 18:25:33 HST From: deane@mozart.IFA.Hawaii.Edu (Kimo Kanaka De'ane) Message-Id: <9207210425.AA27631@mozart.IFA.Hawaii.EDU> To: leo@zelator.in-berlin.de Subject: Re: phobufo.jpg, part 1/1 Phobos2-probe-UFO-pic Newsgroups: alt.binaries.pictures.erotica In-Reply-To: <7894THM@zelator.in-berlin.de> Organization: Institute for Astronomy, Hawaii Cc: Status: RO Aloha. As an infrared astronomer, I am certain that the streak in this picture is a bad column from the infrared array. Those chips are notorious for having rows of dead pixels. I saw shapes like this one on both the array at the University of Wyoming IR Observatory and here at UH, though ours is a cutting-edge device, and has slightly better cosmetics. I put no faith whatsoever in the UFO idea. Again, I've used these devices extensively, and my job is determining what kind of structure one can believable extract from imaging electronics. This is just an instrumental flaw. N.B. CCDs are used in the Optical bandpass, roughly the same light visible with the eye. IR-arrays are the same *basic* structure, with important differences in detail, and are about 5-8 years behind CCDs in terms of size and performance. It's a hard waveband to work in, but one chock full of scientific merit. Clear skies, Kimo Date: Mon, 20 Jul 92 19:13:32 EDT From: tarl@apache.sw.stratus.com (Tarl Neustaedter) Message-Id: <9207202313.AA15439@apache.sw.stratus.com> To: leo@zelator.in-berlin.de In-Reply-To: Stefan Hartmann's message of Mon, 20 Jul 92 12:32:43 MEST Subject: phobufo.jpg, part 1/1 Phobos2-probe-UFO-pic Status: RO > Hmm, > interesting idea, but tell me, won't there be visible only a little > white pixel and not this long big line ? If you happen to get a charged particle hitting the edge of the detector parallel to the plane, it will travel through a number of cells, triggering them. Under some conditions, the cascade of secondary particles can make the line much wider than a single pixel. > What about all the other photos that were taken ? Why are over there > no white lines or spots ? The effect is temporary, so you won't get the same damage in all images. If you question is why none of the other pictures show any damage, there are two answers: a) Do you have all of the raw data for all the images? Knowing how glavkosmos works (even post-perestroika), you don't. It's common practice to process images removing defects before you release them, and to simply discard images that are too badly damaged. b) Have you heard of the term "random"? > Would a CCD chip camera for space mission not made safe for this > charged particle hits ? If not, You would see every time only white > spots ! No. a) It takes miles of insulation to defend against relativistic charged particles. There is no way to make a CCD "safe" against cosmic rays. b) They aren't common enough to zap all your images. Most images won't have any cosmic ray hits, and those that do will probably be at a sharper angle than this, and thus a smaller hit. c) My comment about cosmic rays was simply one of the defects that could be the cause; I'd have to have the raw data and specifications on the imaging and transmission hardware before I could comment on the likely candidates. I've observed this discussion before, and I don't care to carry it on. It is the provenance of conspiracy theorists and ufo true-believers, not anyone who has ever worked with CCDs or space equipment. The only reason I commented is because after posting it to sci.astro, you posted it to an erotica group, which was inappropriate. > Rethink about it ! Give me a break. Tarl So, what do You all say about this ? Best regards Stefan Hartmann. email to: leo@zelator.in-berlin.de -- ************************************************************* * Stefan Hartmann This is how to contact me: * * EMAIL: leo@zelator.in-berlin.de * * Phone : ++ 49 30 344 23 66 FAX : ++ 49 30 344 92 79 * ************************************************************* -- Michael Corbin - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Re: Phobos2-probe Ufo Pic-pro And Contra Date: 24 Jul 92 20:45:04 GMT * Forwarded from "Alt.Alien.Visitors" * Originally from Ithlial The Archer * Originally dated 07-22-92 12:56 From: cary@carina.unm.edu (Ithlial the Archer) Date: 21 Jul 92 15:44:39 GMT Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque Message-ID: Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.astro,alt.alien.visitors,alt.paranormal Everything stated in the original post is a common occurence even in ground based CCDs. Especially the cosmic ray hits, which become quite frequent on long esposures, like those used for extragalactic objects. On observing runs I've been on I've seen CR hits so energetic they saturate an entire column and possibly an adjacent one and leave residual charge on subsequent read-outs of the chip (somewhat like an after image that people get when they look at something very bright.) Our method of dealing with cosmic ray hits is to take at least three short exposures in place of the one long one and then median them. This works quite well since even small chips are 512 by 512 (columns by pixels) so the chance of having even the same column hit is very small especially if you make your exposure time shorter. On the one of the chips at our observatory (Capilla Peak, in the Manzanos mtns in NM) we saw what we thought to be a comet. We searched for the object on subsequent nights, since we need at least 3 observations to really nail down the orbit et cetera. We could not locate the object. Then the 'object' appeared again at a far removed point in the sky. A quick back of the envelope calculation show that if the 'comet' was even at a very close range then its velocity was an order of magnitude above solar system escape velicity and few times above galactic escape velocity. The culprit was a fairly large defect on the chip. I think this story serves to show that defects and CR hits can produce a wide variety of effects on CCDs. We could have just as easily said that the effect was and exhaust plume of a spaceship, but when we found out chip was acting silly the end result was the same: we gotta buy a new chip. See ya, Ithlial My opinions, mine, mine, mine! To me, boxing is like ballet, except there's no music, no choreography, and the dancers hit eachother. -- Michael Corbin - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Stealth Manuscript Date: 24 Jul 92 22:08:01 GMT * Forwarded from "Alt.Alien.Visitors" * Originally from Joe Citro Iii * Originally dated 07-24-92 13:10 From: jcitro3@cwis.unomaha.edu (Joe Citro III) Date: 24 Jul 92 08:34:33 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha Message-ID: <1992Jul24.083433.12878@news.unomaha.edu> Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors Someone posted an article in the last few weeks (in alt.alien.visitors) about a supposed politician whom had claimed to have been abducted. No names were given as to which politician this might be. However last night (23 July) I found the following article in TIME magazines July 27, 1992 issue. "Here Comes The Stealth Manuscript" "Booksellers are grinding their teeth over several big Ross Perot books that have been cancelled on the eve of publication. BUT SOMETHING BIGGER MAY BE COMING SOON (my emphasis). Putnam is preparing to ship more than 100,000 copies of a supersecret book in late August. The publisher is keeping both the subject and the author completely confidential. According to buyers for the major chains, Putnam executives have been whispering that it is a biography of a major Washington official that contains information so explosive it could cause his or her resignation. This has prompted a guessing game within the industry, but Putnam executives say only 'No Comment.'" Anticipation will antagonize me until late August! I certainly hope that this will not turn out to be hoax. Joseph A. Citro III jcitro3@odin.unomaha.edu -- Michael Corbin - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve.Gresser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Steve Gresser) Subject: AURORA & NASA? Date: 23 Jul 92 17:46:00 GMT * Forwarded from "UFOs" * Originally by Albert Dobyns * Originally to Chris Mangus * Originally dated 21 Jul 1992, 20:06 Fellow Aurora watchers, I found this post on the Space echonet and was surprised to see it! I'm not sure what to make of it. Is it for real? Is it some form of disinformation? Is it an attempt to shift the emphasis of Aurora from spy plane usage to a research vehicle? All I can say for sure is I don't know the answer to these questions. -------------------------------------- NASA's Office of Aeronautics and Space Technology announced that work has begun on the construction of a very-high-altitude unpiloted research aircraft which NASA will use to measure ozone levels and other atmospheric conditions. The aircraft is being manufactured under a $2.25 million contract by Aurora Flight Sciences Corp., Manassas, Virginia, and is made of lightweight composite materials such as graphite and Kevlar. The Perseus aircraft is viewed as the first step in the general use of advanced aircraft for many aspects of Earth science research which are presently out of the flight regime of other NASA flight platforms such as the ER-2 high-altitude research aircraft or high-altitude balloons. The Perseus aircraft, which will have a wingspan of nearly 59 feet and yet will weigh only 880 pounds, is expected to be able to fly at altitudes of 82,000 feet with a range of 1,000 miles and a cruising time of one hour. The plane will be powered by a liquid-cooled rotary engine which will run on gasoline and oxygen, diluted by recirculated exhaust gases. The Perseus is designed to fly nominal missions using a preprogrammed flight sequence with onboard inertial systems using Global Positioning Satellite data and onboard wind sensors to update the aircraft's autopilot. The plane also can be flown by ground command much like previous aircraft have been in the NASA aircraft research program. Ames Research Center is the flight project management center for the Perseus, which will begin flight testing late this year at Dryden Flight Research Facility in California's Mojave Desert. --------------------------------- Just wanted to add that I lived close enough to Manassas, Virginia to have driven through there many times. If I'm ever in that area again, I'm going to look for that company! I'm hoping that others who read this may be able to substantiate some of this info! I find it very interesting even though it's not a flying saucer!! # Origin: Chicago's Multiline BBS (708) 887-7685 [9600 V32 HST] (8:7001/1) -- Steve Gresser - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Steve.Gresser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: violet.berkeley.edu!chalmers Subject: Air&Space article Date: 25 Jul 92 17:11:59 GMT From: chalmers@violet.berkeley.edu (John H. Chalmers Jr.) The August/September 1992 issue of AIR&SPACE magazine, published by the Smithsonian Aerospace Museum, carries an article called 'Aliens in the Basement' about Wright-Patterson Air Force Base and the legend that captured EBE's and UFO's have been stored and studied there (pp 34-49). The author is Frank Kuznik and the photographer, Lee Battaglia. There are no surprises in this piece, but it's interesting reading, especially about the 'super-secret Foreign Technology center.' The author also speculates that what may have been covered up in New Mexico in 1947 was the crash of B-29 carrying an atomic bomb. -- John -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vince.Johnson@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Vince Johnson) Subject: "Ogden Objects" Date: 25 Jul 92 17:41:00 GMT How was the "Ogden Objects" story resolved? I never heard whether or not the story was ever substantiated. -- Vince Johnson - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Vince.Johnson@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Peggy Noonan) Subject: "Ogden Objects" Date: 25 Jul 92 23:21:00 GMT >How was the "Ogden Objects" story resolved? I never heard >whether or not the story was ever substantiated. >--- Hi Vince, I don't know if anyone else found anything, but I was stopped without getting to the root of the story. The one person who supposedly was actually there and who released the story to his friend later decided he wouldn't talk about it because it wasn't that big a deal. (Only to everyone else, apparently.) None of the government sources I contacted verified anything, but that's not proof either way -- if you lean toward conspiracy theories or believe the Gov't, either way, it's nil. None of the places I checked had any activity that fit this thing and everyone I contacted wanted to know more but didn't have much in the way of data to contribute. So, the bottom line is, no...there wasn't anything more. Frustrating. *If* the story was true and *if* any of that stuff happened, you'd think that some of the other people who saw it or worked on the excavation of the site would've talked by now, at least in the rumor-mill level, but nothing's come to me...perhaps somebody else in ParaNet will know... You might find a book interesting -- it's called _The Ogden Enigma_ by Gene Snyder, Playboy Press (date...not sure offhand, 79 maybe). It's about a mysterious object hidden at what would be the same place this current Ogden Object was supposed to be, and it's linked to UFOs. It is fiction, however, so if you read the book be prepared for that. The preface is really interesting. And it would be easy to surmise that this author fictionalized something that really happened (the contact he had who told him about the Ogden mystery) and then "imagineered" the rest of the tale atop that. The book is out of print and not available through the publisher (I called) but you can find it on Interlibrary Loan if you ask your librarian to get it for you. Might be in some of the listings at places like Arcturus Books in GA (excellent resource for UFO books) or Lou Farish's UFO Newsclipping Service's book list (Route 220, Box 1, Plumerville, AR 72127). I don't have the Arcturus address here on my desk, but loads of people in the echo know it and I'm sure someone will pop up with the info for you. If you DO hear of any new info on the story, would you please pass it along to me? I'd be very grateful. My story on this (for OMNI's Antimatter section) hasn't been published so there's still time to update if new info comes out or new people start talking. I hope this reply was of some help, though I wish it could've been more interesting -- a resolution to the mystery! ==Peggy -- Peggy Noonan - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David.Brune@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG (David Brune) Subject: Re: K2 And The Phoenix Project Date: 26 Jul 92 04:18:00 GMT Clark, I've talked to Jack and he is going to send me a tape of the radio message they intercepted, mentioned in the K2 report, so we'll see what that has to say about all this. It should be interesting to say the least. David -- David Brune - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: David.Brune@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vince.Johnson@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Vince Johnson) Subject: "Ogden Objects" Date: 26 Jul 92 21:51:00 GMT I've seen a file on the story you mentioned. It's called OGDENENI.TXT and concerns the fictional story you describe, except in this case, it's a crashed (100 foot diameter) flying saucer that the military recovers and moves to Utah near the Dugway Prooving Ground (remember the nerve gas leak there during the 60s.. killed a bunch of cattle.. sounds like the movie CE3K). I don't believe the story concerned any excavations of artifacts as in the "Ogden Objects" story. If you like I'll upload this file to you. By the way, I have to ask.. are you the same Peggy Noonan that writes speeches for the GOP? Regards, Vince -- Vince Johnson - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Vince.Johnson@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ParaNet.Information.Service@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (sm) Subject: STRONG WORD OF CAUTION! Date: 27 Jul 92 06:56:02 GMT Over the last few days we have been posting information supplied by the Phoenix Project of Carson City, Nevada. This information has been strongly disclaimed by ParaNet pending the results of our investigation to determine the validity of the Phoenix Project and its officers. While the investigation is still ongoing, we have found some highly disturbing things relating to credibility of the group. This information will be reported as soon as the investigation is completed. This should be in the next few days. Until this investigation is complete and the findings published, ParaNet wishes to urge everyone not to send any money to the group. Michael Corbin Director -- ParaNet(sm) Information Service - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: ParaNet(sm).Information.Service@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Pete Porro) Subject: Re: MJ-12 THE ULTIMATE Date: 23 Jul 92 15:31:42 GMT Yes after a quick look it does look like the MJ-12 series released a few years back. It's an edited collection of similar ideas. Now I'll go back and read for anything new or different. -- Pete Porro - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: afglsc.span.nasa.gov!WEBB Subject: Re: Closed Abductee Conference Date: 27 Jul 92 15:24:09 GMT From: WEBB@afglsc.span.nasa.gov To: Mike Corbin Mike, I fully agree with you that peer review is an essential element of proper scientific validation. As far as I know all the papers for the proc. of the conference will be refereed in some fashion and, again, the proc. will be available to anyone. I do not specifically know why Vallee was not at the conf. I do know that some submitted papers were rejected or requests were made to shorten them. Despite running 5 days, the speaking times were very limited due to the strong response for participation and desire for comprehensive coverage of the abduction subject. I would guess that Vallee was invited but declined to attend due to other commitments and/or that he did not want to shorten or change his talk. I do not speak for the organizers and have probably said too much already. Dave Webb -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike.Keithly@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Mike Keithly) Subject: Air & Space article Date: 28 Jul 92 01:32:03 GMT * Forwarded from "FidoNet UFO Echo" * Originally by Mike Keithly * Originally to All * Originally dated 27 Jul 1992, 18:23 Just to let you know there is an article on Wright Patterson AFB in the issue of Air & Space Magazine on the infamous Hanger 18, a good article that all leads up to what we all know there is no Hanger 18 and no bodys. But there is mention of a Foreign Technology room that NO one gets into without Top Secret Clearance less than 100 people can get access to it.. Good Article check it out. Mike Keithly -- Mike Keithly - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Mike.Keithly@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Burke@f9.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (John Burke) Subject: Let The Truth Be Told! Date: 29 Jul 92 06:03:00 GMT Finally! An article has been published that provides us with a candid look at how Stanton Friedman conducts his investigations. For years, anyone who dared to publicly question Friedman's work (particularly the MJ-12 junk) was threatened with a libel suit. Nevertheless, the Citizens Against UFO Secrecy called his bluff and continued to inform the readership of _Just Cause_ about the real goings on in Friedman's MJ-12 investigation. Recently, the United States District Court dismissed spoonbender Uri Geller's defamation suit against CSICOP. The court went further and imposed sanctions against Geller in accordance with Rule 11 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure for bringing the action in bad faith (i.e. in attempt to silence his critics). There happens to be a defense to a defamation suit, commonly characterized as: "fair comment and criticism on matters of public importance". By entering into the public arena to debate paranormal issues (as Geller and Friedman have) their investigative methodologies are "fair game" for any critics. As a result of the Geller case many critics of people like Friedman (who likes to blow a lot of smoke about filing libel suits) will feel more comfortable to voice their opinions. If Friedman does file such a suit, he runs the risk of being slapped with Rule 11 sanctions as did Geller. I was delighted to see the recent article in the _International UFO Reporter_ Vol. 17 No.3, which finally brought to light the investigative methodologies of Stanton Friedman. Many of us who followed the MJ-12 fiasco along, found it strange that Friedman continued to vouch for the authenticity of those obviously-forged documents even as the evidence of their hoaxed origin continued to mount. It just didn't seem like he was being too objective about his investigation. His published articles on the subject had the unequivocal spirit of advocacy running throughout. This same spirit of advocacy was again brought to light in the recent _IUR_. Additionally, the tactics employed by Friedman have been documented and exposed. Any reasonable person should be disgusted with the way Friedman continues to trot Gerald Anderson around as his star witness to an alleged "San Agustin UFO crash" in the face of overwhelming evidence that Anderson is a liar. Perhaps as a result of this article and the decision in the Geller case, the various UFO publications and groups will stop giving Friedman the credit he doesn't deserve and start subjecting him to the same scrutiny that everyone else gets. Once they do, I would expect to see a lot less interest in his work. Enough time has been wasted on the MJ-12 documents and the fabrications of Gerald Anderson. Let's move on to something more worthwhile. -- John -- John Burke - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Burke@f9.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David.Brune@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG (David Brune) Subject: Re: K2 And The Phoenix Project Date: 28 Jul 92 16:56:00 GMT Clark, I have no idea what this intercepted transmission the Phoenix group got is. I've asked Jack, but he said he had to defer it to the Phoenix Group for their answer. I basically asked what you did, what kind of transmission is it, how was it intercepted, etc. If I hear anything, or get the tape for the matter, I'll let you know. I have a friend who is a communications engineer and who was in the military for about 10 years, he said he would listen to it and tell me if it is military or what. I just heard of this Haddonfield thing the other day. I haven't had a chance to ask Jack about it yet, but I plan on it ASAP. As for the newsletter, that is news to me, no pun intended, but I will definitely ask Jack and see what he says. You may be interested to know, that I have managed to get Jack and the Phoenix Group to enter into an online conference on CIS! It will be interesting what is said and what questions are asked, and how people will feel afterwards. If the guy or group is hoaxing all this, as some people believe, then they sure have some guts to go into an online conference. I'll keep you posted. 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