Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 599 Monday, October 19th 1992 (C) Copyright 1992 Paranet Information Service. All Rights Reserved. Today's Topics: Check This Out Friday Night On TV More Hatoon - 1/2 More Hatoon - 2/2 Auroraquaked again Re: Alien artifact July 26, 1993 Background on Tonights Video Anti-gravity Flying Saucer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Check This Out Friday Night On TV Date: 15 Oct 92 01:13:01 GMT * Originally by Uucp, 1:104/422 * Originally to Michael Corbin, 1:104/428 * Originally dated 14 Oct 1992, 17:32 * Original: TO ... Michael Corbin of 1:104/422 * ReDirected Using ReDirect Version 1.00 (C)1989 David Nugent Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 13:56:17 -0700 You all might want to watch Sightings this Friday (it's on at 9pm on FOX here - check your local listings). Aviation Week and Space Technology has released the video that Bill Hartenstein and I shot at 12:40AM on July 25, 1991 next to Edwards North Base. Hartenstein was the camera man. Hartenstein is also the camera man who flew with AW&ST engineering editor Mike Dornheim over the B-2 roll-out to get those supposedly 'illegal' overhead shots of the B-2 during rollout. This video shows a gold plasma-like object that seemed to fly over Edwards right to the South of us. We were out, trying to shoot video of the 'TR-3A' or 'pulser' and saw this thing instead on that Wednesday night. You won't see the gold color of the object because we were using image intensified video. The nature of the object is highly unusual. Although it is a light, it's 'plasma' dripping behavior is very interesting and unusual. I don't know if it was actually a plasma that was dripped or smeared. I have NO idea how the video will be used or what will be said. So even though I might be embarrassed, I think it's important for you all to know it's coming up so you can have a look. I found out about this broadcast through the efforts of Rick Pavek who saw the video previewed on last Fridays show! He was able to videotape the preview and get me his copy so I could confirm it. The context in which our video was previewed by Sightings, was as an American UFO! This may or may not be true but this is why I'm surprised that AW&ST released it! I don't know if they know how it will be used. I also don't know if AW&ST's name will be used but I suspect that it would be used if they released it. As I understand it from Rick, Jim Goodall is also interviewed on the show. I suspect Jim will be mentioning his own sources of information but I don't know. My own personal opinion is that I don't know what the object was. But I have some ideas. We can talk about that after the show if you're interested. Larry -- Michael Corbin - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don.Allen@p1.f81.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Allen) Subject: More Hatoon - 1/2 Date: 12 Oct 92 08:36:02 GMT * Forwarded from "ask_ufo" * Originally by Don Allen * Originally to All * Originally dated 12 Oct 1992, 1:28 Well, our good "buddies" George Green and his Doppelganger sidekick (aka 'Hatonn') are at it again. I d/l this dreck off the Phoenix "Liberator" BBS. The point in question is in the _last_ part of this post in part 2; however I feel it's germane to include this whole section leading up to this crud just so everyone has an IDEA of what kind of CON GAME is going on here. The point in question is all the crap "Hatoon" is throwing around about Don Ecker and UFO Magazine's investigation. I'm preparing a HUGE file of this horse manure to post on Usenet so as to make people aware to AVOID this fish wrapper known as the "Phoenix Liberator". MEGA DITTOES to Don Ecker for having the stomach to put up with the investigation of this scum, and for exposing them for what they *really* are! Gird your selves folks..you're about to enter "Hatonn's World" :-( FILENAME: EH09111.ZIP ----------------------------------------------------------------------- HATONN D/1-6-26 REC #1 HATONN FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 11, 1992 8:11 A.M. YEAR 6, DAY 26 RUMORS AND CONFIRMATIONS OK, the confirmations are now flowing through. Remember the "maybe its sand fleas" or, or, or--in problems with troops' health during and after the Saudi stay? Now they have deliberately DONE IT AGAIN, readers. It is now firm that at least 50,000 soldiers are dying of, "introduced through inoculations", a species of Anthrax. This is even more efficient for ridding yourselves of people than is "friendly fire". How could they get away with it? Because it was touted that Iraq had Anthrax-laden Scuds and it was necessary for PROTECTION. There is NO CURE for this and many, many more persons are already dead of other "claimed" causes than you can imagine. IT WILL GET WORSE! SPEAKING OF FRIENDLY FIRE You now have public information regarding intentional death raids on your own people (POWs/MIAs) as a caller to a night- line network program (during the Idaho standoff with Weaver and Gritz) called in to say that "I WAS ONE WHO WAS SENT IN TO KILL POWs IN SOUTHEAST ASIA FIFTEEN YEARS AGO IN PLANNED AND ORCHESTRATED ASSAULTS TO LEAVE NONE ALIVE--AND I HAVEN'T SLEPT A NIGHT IN THE FIFTEEN YEARS SINCE." Please open your eyes and ears, World--the clock is at the hour. HEPATITIS B & C, AIDS AND OTHER LIES The prisons around your nation are epidemic with Hepatitis. This is the same form of virus introduced into national water supplies--first studied and tested in the control for populations of prisons, etc. In Tehachapi, Calif. a Constitutional Law Center class action suit was filed yes- terday against ones of the Golden Hills Community Services District and all other authority parties thereof because of contamination which was KNOWN about for two years and current complaints of symptoms for six months. People are now sick. This virus will remain in the body ready to present (as herpes) for the remainder of life span. There is no "allowed" remedy. This is the reason AIDS as a disease category is being revised to include many other dis- eases such as the new strain of Tuberculosis which also does NOT have a cure. YOU ARE IN "IT" CITIZENS. You may find it more interesting to find that it is first introduced into the area in this township--where resides Dharma AND THE LIBERATOR. Nice try, boys--but our people are shielded and heeded warnings. There may be slight inconvenience but ones who have followed my instructions explicitly are fine. When confronted by the "press" and "media" the Head of the CSD in point said (about the suits that might come forth), "...oh well, we have liability insurance." Also, it comes forth that the county Grand Jury is looking into the fact of possible mismanagement of funds by this CSD group--like, for instance, a lawyer who gets more than $600/hr. The same law firm and billing/bookkeeping services (also out of town) serve several of the small communities in the immediate area. Strange? NO--POLITICAL CORRUPTION IN FULL FLOWER. ALL YOU PEOPLE OUT THERE HAD BEST BE CHECKING THOSE BOUTS OF FAST SPREADING "FLU" THAT SEEMS TO HAVE NO ENDING BUT GREAT BEGINNINGS. YOU COULD ALLOW THIS TO BE A TEST CASE FOR YOUR USE AS PRECEDENT FOR IF MANY OF YOUR TOWNSHIPS FILED--WITH PROOF OF CONTAMINATION OF WATER SUPPLIES WITH COVER-UP, YOU COULD AT LEAST SCARE THE PERPETRATORS INTO STOPPING SUCH. CLASS ACTION SUITS THROUGH A CENTRAL FOCUS AS IS THE LAW CENTER FOR CONSTITUTIONAL LAW (CLC) CAN BE FOUGHT WITH "POOLED" RESOURCES AND MAKE THE LEGAL COUNTER ASSAULT FEASIBLE. WE HAVE EFFORTED TO GIVE YOU ASSISTANCE BUT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH IT. OUR PEOPLE CANNOT LONGER CARRY THE BURDEN OF EXPENSE FOR THE ENTIRE OF YOUR NATION. IT IS UP TO YOU. DEATH IN FLORIDA There was a great loss of life in Florida's hurricane which is still covered from your attention. Bodies have been removed from the area in very large numbers. I remind you that one dead person can cover for tens of dozens for you have no way of checking against "other" death announcements. This as example: say John Doe dies and YOU know it. In a nearby place Jane Doe dies---BUT, both are counted and reported as ONE count and with no communications available there is NO WAY FOR ANY OF YOU TO KNOW "HOW MANY". It is simply that these "helpful" troops are having to haul out large numbers of bodies under this same number of counting. HAWAII HURRICANE THREAT You can expect the same thing today in Hawaii. Does anyone remember that Hawaii is a State of the United States? That hurricane which will probably hit Hawaii TODAY is going to be as big as Andrew if it is not diverted and hits head on. Yet what happens? A day or so of "some" mention and then suddenly with no fanfare to speak of or show of preparations, it is THERE! OTHER NOTABLE HAPPENINGS There was a big earthquake in your alternate missile launch site. By the way--many of the recent launches are joint ventures with Communist "brothers" so just WHO do you think really gets the use of the launched satellites? Well, it is NOT YOU. The volcanic activity in the Philippines is disastrous and, now, note that in Zaire, South Africa (near where the incredible massacre of hundreds of South Africans took place a couple of days ago)--a major earthquake (seven point or above, the largest ever reported in the area) has occurred. Could this be to cover the massive numbers of dead in the area and unreported to international press--from the machine-gun and assault weapons hit against a peaceful demonstration? AT ANY RATE OF COUNTING--"YOU" ARE NOT GOING TO GET ACCURACY IN REPORTING. ** Cont in part 2 ** -- Don Allen - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Don.Allen@p1.f81.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don.Allen@p1.f81.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Allen) Subject: More Hatoon - 2/2 Date: 12 Oct 92 08:36:03 GMT * Forwarded from "ask_ufo" * Originally by Don Allen * Originally to All * Originally dated 12 Oct 1992, 1:35 ** Cont from last ** IRS MANEUVERING Beware the Ides of March and April: The IRS is putting a change through in electronic tax-return filing in an effort to suppress fraud--this will stop private programs that lend money to taxpayers who file for refunds. $10 BILLION TO ISRAEL From the harnessed horse: Bush just spoke to the B'nai B'rith Anti-Defamation League (a branch of British Intelligence in coalition with the British-Israeli League) that he is formally making a commitment and will insist Congress give the $10 Billion to Israel. I find this inter- esting for a couple of reasons. The most important is that U.S. Patriot groups and citizens even in the back mountains of Idaho are assaulted and attacked and yet $10 BILLION of YOUR only resources is given away to foreign interests-- that, when all of your Florida tip is years away from functioning. Los Angeles has not, by the way, received any help from the U.S. as promised! CHINA MAY NOT PAY Remember those GRAIN DEALS that took ALL your grain and wheat reserves and you couldn't believe what we told you? Well, China threatens to stop the grain agreement (this means that they will now refuse to PAY for that which they have gotten) if F-16s go to Taiwan as ordered by Bush. YOU IN THE U.S. HAVE LESS THAN A 30 DAY SUPPLY OF FOOD!! PONDER IT AND HAVE A GOOD DAY. POTATO VS. POTATOE Has anyone considered this: singular for potato is potato, plural for potato is potatoes. The same is valid for tomato(es). Did anyone study your English grammar? Of course it may not longer be acceptable since the Vice President blew it. History changes with the whims of the ruling parties as does science and math--so why not ALL? ***End HOT LINE EDITORS:****THIS WILL GO BEFORE THE PRINTING OF THE BILL COOPER LETTER REGARDING THE UFO DENOUNCEMENT. DON ECKER/UFO MAGAZINE I see no purpose in responding again to such rubbish and blatant disinformation resources as Don Ecker of UFO magazine. I find the attack of both them and Joseph Pavlonski (alias John Coleman) to be amusing and self- condemning. I do, however, ask that a rather miserable counter attack of a couple of years past from one of "their own UFO colleagues" to be a more than adequate answer. I ask that the Editors reprint the newsletter from Cooper regarding the group involved herein from that JOURNAL. However, for you who read the article in UFO, I wish to point out that ANYONE coming to INFILTRATE or SPY were welcomed and all questions were responded to with great courtesy and generosity. There has never been rudeness and I believe that is self-evident by the same article wherein the "spies" got, apparently, all sorts of information--all of which is invalid and foolish in nature. There is NO GROUP, NO CULT, NO CHURCH AND THEREFORE CAN BE NO "LOOSE ORGANIZATION". Don Ecker shows his own blundering stupidity by ending the article "....George Green stated that "anyone" could build the "descrambler" to tune into the military channel that purportedly carries Hatonn..." George DID NOT SAY SUCH A THING--the frequency is a high band frequency in the range of weather satellite usage and is NOT military and I would guess that you might have to be sophisticated in radio to build your own--but capability already exists for receiving the sound waves. "Descrambler" is poor language use-- because it needs no descrambling--simply a translator of the pulse language or a very sophisticated computer terminal for simultaneous "reading" of the pulses. He (Ecker) also says: "If Hatonn doesn't have the answer, perhaps local military facilities might: Edwards Air Force Base and the China Lake Naval Weapons Station are both relatively nearby." Ah, a blackmail threat of some sort?? Not to worry, readers: They both catch everything directly and right off this computer so we actually feel quite secure. They may have "big guns" but I have more massive "weapons" at my disposal. We have a very healthy respect for one another and it would behoove readers to get a little more "with it". If you need a UFO "magazine" for old drivel--what think you that may have happened in this last 40 years? The dis- mis-information teams are getting pretty desperate, ARE THEY NOT? Better look carefully and think about it, readers. If you look at their price tag I think you will also find our publications are far less expensive on one to one basis and you MIGHT get some interesting information regarding UFOs from our resource--I have yet to see one totally accurate report or story in their publication. I would guess that our Khazarian, Don Ecker (alias a dozen labels), must be getting nervous to get involved with such other agents already disclosed as blatant enemy agents to the United States of America. If you who claim to be "the people" do not clean out the thieves and liars who claim your press, sensational tabloids, and media--then perhaps you deserve the smothering lies and deceit dumped on you. It is these little "nerds" who allow the "big jerks" to totally control you and all your thought processes. I AM OBVIOUSLY BIG ENOUGH TO GIVE THEM A BAD CASE OF NIGHT TERRORS OR THEY WOULD NOT ATTACK SO STUPIDLY--IF I AM NOT REAL, WHY THE ATTENTION, MR. ECKER? WE BOTH KNOW YOUR DESPERATION, DO WE NOT? PEOPLE ARE WAKING UP AND YOU DECEIVERS ARE GETTING DAMNED SCARED, AREN'T YOU? I LOOK FORWARD TO NUMBER THREE WHEREIN WE AWAIT JOSEPH PAVLONSKI'S ADDITION AND INTERVIEW--IF HE IS STILL YET UNDEPORTED AS THE WARRANT ISSUED REQUIRES. CREDIBILITY? YES INDEED--BUT NOT FOR YOU, SIRs AND MADAMs. I further suggest all stay tuned because I believe all will find testimony in the suit defending against the University of Science and Philosophy quite interesting. I, Germain, Russell and even Tesla--are very capable of speaking for selves and I do believe a JURY will find it indeed informative. INDEED, I LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT IN THE SERIES, MR. ECKER. ** End of File ** Don If ENOUGH people are made aware of this con game, then George Green will be backpeddling even more than he has on the Chicken Little congame called "Photon Belt"; wherein he had his minions go out to sell welding goggles to the the gullable. *MY* intention is to absolutely sink his credibility by merely posting his _own_ written words..at this rate, it shouldn't take much longer! -- Don Allen - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Don.Allen@p1.f81.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Auroraquaked again Date: 16 Oct 92 07:16:01 GMT Date: 15 Oct 92 16:30:00 PST Date sent: 15-OCT-1992 I don't know if anybody noticed, but we Southern Californian's were treated to another flyover of the infamous boom-box aircraft once again this morning. Shock arrival timed out at 0641:30-35 PDT at coordinates 34deg06min24sec North by 117deg48min21sec West or in the city of San Dimas, CA. Just thought you might want to know. Maybe we are back to the Thursday morning pattern again. Oh, by the way, sound pressure level was rated as mildly annoying. I am going to Edwards on Friday morning, so have a nice weekend. Mike *-----------------------------------------------------------------------------* | Mike Cancellier, Lt, USAF ICBM Net: 34 06 24 N 117 48 21 W | | CVALJ000@CSUPomona.edu or | | Cal Poly Pomona Geography Dept. 47 55 31 N 97 01 57 W | | Technical Specialist (Reply in 30 minutes, guaranteed!) | *-----------------------------------------------------------------------------* -- Michael Corbin - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sdsu.edu!infinity%painful Subject: Re: Alien artifact Date: 16 Oct 92 21:14:38 GMT From: infinity%painful@sdsu.edu (David E. Coleman) This is old thread, but I was gone during the summer Brian Wood wanted to know about an artifact found near Death Valley. This is the so-called Coso artifact. The Coso Range is about 70 miles West of Death Valley, and the village of Coso Junction a little further. It is written up as the most famous of the strange metallic finds taken out from inside rock. Indeed, _Mysteries of time and space_ by Brad Steiger covers most of these finds in some detail. More galactic thoughts from: Amicitia Subjugat Omnia Hweohthte... (Hwe-oath-T) ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- David E. Coleman infinity%painful@sdsu.edu 5335 Remington Rd, Apt. 238 San Diego, CA 92115 1-(619)-594-3218 ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sdsu.edu!infinity%painful Subject: July 26, 1993 Date: 16 Oct 92 22:43:52 GMT From: infinity%painful@sdsu.edu (David E. Coleman) Robert Trevelyan mentioned that there is a predicted return of UFOs to Alton Barnes on July 26, 1993. This I understand is the same date, I doubt coincidentally, of the so-called 'next planetary activation, which *this* time is when 'time at Earth us supposed to fold back on itself' or some such idea. The previous activatiobs were events such as the 11:11, Harmonic Convergence, the 1989 Time Warp, etc. I assume that Robert is aware of this. Does this mean Steven Greer and company are 11:11 'freaks'? More galactic thoughts from: Amicitia Subjugat Omnia Hweohthte... (Hwe-oath-T) ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- David E. Coleman infinity%painful@sdsu.edu 5335 Remington Rd, Apt. 238 San Diego, CA 92115 1-(619)-594-3218 ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Background on Tonights Video Date: 17 Oct 92 04:54:01 GMT Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:53:17 -0700 Regarding tonights Sightings program on FOX: I've gotten private e-mail from several people asking for my impressions of this. Also, evidently at least one person on skunk.works has seen the early feed of Sightings, so we have confirmation that it will air tonight. Lets analyse it after you all see it. Let me describe where it was taken and what you'll see so that after you tape it and go over it, you'll be able to get a little farther in your analysis. This will only do any good if they show the approach of the object from the west, because then you'll see some ground reference points. This video was shot at ~12:40 AM on 7/25/91. At that instant we were standing just across the highway north of Edwards North Base, near the entrance to North Base, looking south. Now remember you're looking at intensified video and the intensifier was grainy. It will look green and white. At the beginning of the sequence the object approaches from the west, but at first you won't see it very well (if they show the absolute beginning), but you will see the glow of Edwards on the ground, an almost full moon directly overhead in the sky (look for the lens flare), a street light (try and find this, if I recall the object starts as a misty white just below the street light's lamp), and the object itself. You'll be able to find the object because it's the only one of the above light sources that moves. Now as the video progresses, Bill zooms on the object using the zoom lens we had attached to the camera. When he does this some of the most interesting 'dripping' motion of the light is seen. Unfortunately as he zooms, you will loose the ground references. The object's track was very horizontal relative to the ground without a waver from west to east, and the track was located in altitude a fist width (widest part of fist held vertical - arm held parallel to the ground) above the ground level of Edwards. So it appeared very low and on a horizontal track. I understand from the gentleman who saw the early feed that you can hear someone saying "what is that" or "it was leaving stuff behind it" or "is that a meteor?" or whatever. That was me. The balls or drips that the light was leaving behind were as large as the main object and as bright at first. Unfortunately this made Bill loose the target when it was right in front of us. The balls or drips dissipated, and you can see this on the video, but the lead object stayed intact. The lead object did loose some brightness, but the main object continued it's low horizontal track to the east where it disappeared (faded) into the night sky. I was never sure if the almost full moon overhead contributed to the objects brightness or whether the object did something that caused it to get bright and drip some plasma, or whatever. The drips or balls stayed in perfect trail with the lead object until dissipating. They look somewhat like shocks from a nozzle except that if they are shocks, the shock train is many 10's of times longer than the lead object itself. You might hear Bill say "where did it go" or some such. The only reason he lost it among the drips was because we lost the connector to the monitor the previous night, so Bill had to use the tiny viewfinder on the Super 8 camcorder. You might hear Bill say "I need that monitor". I was the only one in our group that saw it completely with the naked eye. Bill was manning the camera. Of course I wasn't able to zoom with my eye so what I saw was from long range. To me the lead object looked like a gold pencil with both ends flat (no point), and the pencil had a horizontal dark line running mid-ways through it. What I'm trying to describe is a flat, thin, long object with a black line lengthwise through it. I believe the image intensifier bloomed it to look like a bright ball. I can possibly make out the horizontal black line in the lead ball in my copy, but my copy of the video is 2nd generation. The one you will see might be a 3rd generation copy, unless they got it directly from AW&ST in which case it might be the 1st gen.. I'll let you know after I see it. As far as sound from the object is concerned, remember at that time, we were standing right next to the highway north of Edwards (is it Hwy 18 ?). I believe the sounds you will hear are trucks and cars passing us. I must admit that seeing the object was taking all my attention and I wasn't even listening at the time to the highway. To me, the object was silent. You might want to notice the source of some dripping on the rear side of the main object. Also see if you can decide if the balls or drips have matter in the solid state, as in a disintigrating object. You will also see Bill adjust focus during the shot. Sorry about that. Remember he was shooting a very unusual target at long range through the stupid little Super 8 viewfinder. Soon after the object left (when you hear me say "it disappeared") we got into Bill's 4WD and used his phone to call newspapers, radio, and TV stations in LA, > 100 miles to the south. We assumed that we had just witnessed a very unusual meteor or re-entering space object, that since it was very low on the horizon, was far to the south. We continued to call for some time. There were no reports from the LA area that we could find out about. One LA area source told us that it was somehwat misty or foggy (can't recall exactly what he called it) where he was in LA. Later that day we didn't hear any reports on the radio or TV. That evening we showed the video to a physicist that works at the USAF Rocket Lab right next to Edwards. That person had no idea as well as to what it might be. Natural explanations: An approach to take at this point is to see if it was an earth-light or a bolide meteor, or a reentry (not natural but a good one to try). We have had some informed opinion on this already. If an expert can say that the probability is such that those can be ruled out, then we have a very interesting object indeed! Not to say it also wouldn't be interesting if it was a natural phenomenon. If the probability says it's not natural, then we need to start checking out in more detail the sightings of similar objects. There have been some others that sound very similar. Larry -- Michael Corbin - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike.Keithly@p0.f608.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Mike Keithly) Subject: Anti-gravity Flying Saucer Date: 17 Oct 92 02:06:01 GMT * Forwarded from "Internet Alien Visitors Conf" * Originally by Steven Vere * Originally to All * Originally dated 16 Oct 1992, 12:32 From: vere@netcom.com (Steven Vere) Date: 16 Oct 92 07:09:07 GMT Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Message-ID: <1992Oct16.070907.14099@netcom.com> Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors I saw the following in sci.research and thought people here might be interested too. _____________________________________________________________________ From: mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu Newsgroups: sci.research Subject: Gravity-NEUTRALIZING Invention Message-ID: <1992Oct13.183712.1741@cnsvax.uwec.edu> Date: 13 Oct 92 18:37:12 -0600 Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire Lines: 72 Gravity-NEUTRALIZING Spacecraft and ZERO/REDUCED-Gravity Chamber NASA should build an experimental spacecraft based on U.S. Patent #3,626,605 [at least $1.00 per complete copy from U.S. Patent Office, 2021 Jefferson Davis Hwy., Arlington, VA 22202; correct 7-digit patent number required. Or try getting it via your local public or university library's inter-library loan dept..], titled "METHOD AND APPARATUS FOR GENERATING A SECONDARY GRAVITATIONAL FORCE FIELD", awarded to Inventor Henry W. Wallace on Dec. 14, 1971. In the patent, Figs. 7A and 7B are basically side views of a gravity-NEUTRALIZING FLYING SAUCER, or, if anchored to the ground, a ZERO-GRAVITY CHAMBER [which could have MANY possible GROUND-level applications for science, medicine, manufacturing, etc.]. Each oval diagram shows a motor spinning a central disc at a very high speed, about 28,000 RPM, and also rotating two other discs sandwiched around the first disc, via gears, at a much slower speed, perhaps 2,800 RPM, in the opposite direction. The two outer discs have extensions [counter-balanced via off-center axis] that, as they rotate, alternately make contact with two wide extensions from opposite walls of the spacecraft. The central disc should have shallow spiral-shaped grooves on both sides for air-bearings, to allow the needed very close contact with the two outer discs. I should clarify that each of the two outer discs has ONLY ONE [counter-balanced] extension, each one pointed opposite (180 degrees) the extension of the other disc. VERY CLOSE CONTACT must be made as the disc extensions slide past the wall extensions in order to conduct the "Kinemassic" Energy (term coined by the Inventor) from the discs to the walls in an ALTERNATING CIRCULATION. The most important factor making it work is that the discs, extensions, and outer walls of the spacecraft MUST be made of any material(s) in which a very large majority of the atoms are of isotopes having "half integral atomic spin", such as copper (3/2). All other parts, etc., should have a minority of such atoms. [See the appropriate column of the table of isotopes in the latest edition of "The Handbook of Chemistry and Physics."] Experimenters should use one motor to spin the center disc, and a 2ND SEPARATE motor to rotate the two outer discs, so their relative speeds can be varied to establish the needed conditions for PROPULSION of the spacecraft via "NEGATIVE WEIGHT" (with the spacecraft's "Kinemassic" field PUSHING AGAINST the earth's gravitational field, etc.). If we have to put up a space station, establish Moon bases, go to Mars, rendezvous with comets, etc., WHY DO IT THE HARD WAY?! Your favorite university or research company could make a big name for itself by making a small model of this work. UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this IMPORTANT Information is ENCOURAGED. Robert E. McElwaine B.S., Physics and Astronomy, UW-EC -- _____________________________________________________________________ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ |__| |__| |__| |__| |__| |__| |__| |__| |__| |__| |__| | Steven Vere vere@netcom.com Boulder Creek, California 70571.521@compuserve.com __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ |__| |__| |__| |__| |__| |__| |__| |__| |__| |__| |__| | _____________________________________________________________________ -- Mike Keithly - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Mike.Keithly@p0.f608.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG ******************************************************************************* Submissions infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com Administrative requests infopara-request@scicom.alphacdc.com FTP archive grind.isca.uiowa.edu:/info/paranet/infopara Permission to distribute Michael.Corbin@paranet.org Private mail to Paranet/Fidonet users firstname.lastname@paranet.org UUCP gateway {ncar,isis,csn}!scicom *********************End**of**the**InfoPara**Newsletter************************