Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 609 Thursday, November 12th 1992 (C) Copyright 1992 Paranet Information Service. All Rights Reserved. Today's Topics: It's All In Your Head 1/ Philedelphia Experiment Re: Rod: Wouldn't Eng 2/4 Re: Rod: Wouldn't Eng 3/4 Re: Rod: Wouldn't Eng 4/4 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anson.Kennedy@p0.f25.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Anson Kennedy) Subject: It's All In Your Head 1/ Date: 9 Nov 92 02:11:00 GMT Just one comment about Ring's work. [I have read the book, BTW] I have heard some serious concerns expressed about his methodology. He seems to have relied on persons other than "percipients" to fill out some questionaires (i.e. attending nurses in the case of NDEs and relatives in the case of UFOEs). This can hardly be considered reliable data on which to base significant conclusions. Dr. Robert Baker, in his book _Hidden Memories_, devotes some time to Ring and his theory. It is recommended as balance for Ring's work. --- Anson -- Anson Kennedy - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Anson.Kennedy@p0.f25.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Philedelphia Experiment Date: 10 Nov 92 01:17:01 GMT * Forwarded from "Alt.Alien.Visitors" * Originally by Joseph Daniels * Originally to All * Originally dated 8 Nov 1992, 13:06 From: joseph.daniels%hombas@homebase.com (Joseph Daniels) Date: 8 Nov 92 00:56:00 GMT Organization: Home Base BBS - St. Thomas, ON - 519-633-7253 Message-ID: <1384.479.uupcb@homebase.com> Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors From: hombas!joseph.daniels#uunet.ca To: thumper@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Chris Mojica) Newsgroup: alt.aline.visitors ------------------------------------------------------------------- Didn't the Navy, in WWII, use high magnetic fields to try to render their nearly invisible to radar in the Philadelphia Experiment. I don't think it made the ship crumple up into a twisted piece of metal. -------------------------------------------------------------------- The Tele-Ported Ship from InfoNet, London How many of you heard of the Philadelphia Experiment? According to several sources a fully manned destroyer escort, the U.S.S. Eldridge vanished into a green fog in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania and was 'tele-ported'. Seconds later it appeared hundreds of miles away in Norfolk, Virginia and then it was 'tele-ported' back to Philadelphia, just like the transporters from the science fiction stories of Star Trek. Mr. Morris Ketchum Jessup, Scientist and author of the book "The Case for the UFO" received the letter below on On January 13, 1956. One of Mr. Jessup's main interests was propulsion system of a UFO, and believed that our ancestors had also witnessed the application of this form of power. This letter was amongst the typical fan mail which almost any book generates. This odd styled letter was hand written in several different types of fonts and different types and colors of pencil and pen. Capitalizations are used in the middle of sentences and many words are used in a strange manner and many are mis-spelled. The punctuation is also very strange and many phrases were underlined in different colors of ink. [In the version below such phrases are in all CAPITALS] Although some might right-off such a document as the ramblings of a crack-pot, the actual content of the letter is obviously from very knowledgeable about the event. Talk of Unified Field Theory and the Relativity of Time to the observer are fairly common today, but not to a raving lunatic back in 1955. In April of 1959, Mr. Jessup told an associate, Dr. Valentine that he had researched the "Philadelphia Experiment" and the contents of the letter and wished to show him the rough draft of his amazing findings. The get-together was set for 6:30 P.M. on April 20, 1959. On that very same day Mr. Jessup was found dead in his car in county park and no notes or manuscripts were ever found nor mentioned in the police reports. The police ruled it as a suicide but no suicide note was ever found. Could he have been killed by the secret service, who are infamous for making their killings look like suicide? Did Mr. Jessup uncover something that cost his life? Did Dr. Valentine tell the wrong people about his meeting with Mr. Jessup? Did the Navy kill Mr. Jessup to cover-up the "Philadelphia Experiment"? * * * Carlos Miguel Allenda R.D. No. 1 Box 223 New Kingston, Penn. My Dear Dr. Jessup, Your invocation to the Public that they move en Masse upon their Representatives and have thusly enough Pressure placed at the right & sufficient Number of Places where from a Law demanding Research into Dr. Albert Einsteins Unified Field Theory May be enacted (1925-27) IS NOT at all necessary. It May Interest you to know that The Good Doctor Was Not so Much influenced in his retraction of that Work, BY Mathematics, as he most assuredly was by Humantics. His Later computations, done strictly for his own edification & amusement, upon cycles of Human Civilization & Progress compared to the Growth of Mans General overall Character Was enough to Horrify Him. Thus, We are "TOLD" today that that Theory was "Incomplete." Dr. B. Russell asserts privately that It is complete. He also says that Man is Not Ready for it & Shan't be until after W.W.III Nevertheless, "Results" of My friend Dr. Franklin Reno, WERE USED. These Were a complete Re-check of That Theory, With a View to any & Every Possible quick use of it, if feasable in a Very short time. There Were good Results, as far as a Group Math Re- Check AND as far as a good Physical "Result", to Boot. YET, THE NAVY FEARS TO USE THIS RESULT. The Result was and stands today as Proof that The Unified Field Theory to a certain extent is correct. Beyond that certain extent is correct. Beyond that certain extent No Person in his right senses, or having any senses at all, Will evermore DARE to go. I am sorry that I Mislead You in My Presious Missive. True, enough, such a form of Levitation has been accomplished as described. True, enough, such a form of Levitation has been accomplished as described. It is also a Very commonly observed reaction of certain Metals to Certain Fields surrounding a current. Had Farraday concerned himself about the Mag. field surrounding an Electric Currant, We today Would NOT exist OR IF We did exist, our present Geo-political situation would not have the very time-bombish, ticking off towards Destruction, atmosphere that Now exists. Alright, Alright! The Destroyer type, AND ALL of its crew, While at Sea (Oct. 1943) The Field Was effective in an oblate spheroidal shape, extending one hundred yards (More or Less, due to Lunar position & Latitude) OUT from wach beam of the ship. Any Person Within THAT sphere became vague in form BUT He too observed those Persons aboard that ship as though they too were of the same state, yet were walking upon nothing. Any person without that sphere could see Nothing save the clearly DEFINED SHAPE OF THE SHIPS HULL IN THE WATER, Providing of course, that the person was just close enough to see yet, just barely outside of that field. Why tell you Now? Very Simple; If You choose to go Mad then you would reveal this information. Half of the officers & the crew of that Ship are at Present, Mad as Hatters. A few, are even Yet confined to certain areas where they May receive trained Scientific aid when they, either, "Go Blank" or "Go Blank & Get Stuck." Going Blank IS Not at all an unpleasant expierence to Healthily Curious Sailors. However it is when also, they "Get Stuck" that they call it "HELL" INCORPORATED" The Man thusly stricken can Not Move of his own volition unless two or More of those who are within the field go & touch him, quickly, else he "Freezes". If a man Freezes, His position Must be Marked out carefully and then the Field is cut-off. Everyone but that "Frozen" Man is able to Move; to appreciate APPARENT Solidity again. Then, the Newest Member of the crew Must approach the Spot, where he will find the "Frozen" Mans face or bare skin, that is Not covered by usual uniform Clothing Sometimes, It takes only an hour or so Sometimes all DayLong & Worse IT ONCE TOOK 6 MONTHS, to get The man "Unfrozen". THIS "DEEP FREEZE" WAS NOT PSYCOLOGICAL. It is the Result of a Hyper-Field that is set up, within the field of the Body, While The "Scorch" Field is turned on & this at Length OR upon a Old Hand. >>> Continued to next message . SLMR 2.1a . Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up. -- Michael Corbin - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Re: Rod: Wouldn't Eng 2/4 Date: 10 Nov 92 01:17:02 GMT * Forwarded from "Alt.Alien.Visitors" * Originally by Joseph Daniels * Originally to All * Originally dated 8 Nov 1992, 13:06 From: joseph.daniels%hombas@homebase.com (Joseph Daniels) Date: 8 Nov 92 00:56:00 GMT Organization: Home Base BBS - St. Thomas, ON - 519-633-7253 Message-ID: <1385.479.uupcb@homebase.com> Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors >>> Continued from previous message A Highly complicated Piece of Equipment Had to be constructed in order to Unfreeze those who became "True Froze" or "Deep Freeze" subjects. USUALLY A "DEEP FEEZE" MAN GOES MAD, STARK RAVING, GIBBERING, RUNNING MAD, if His "freeze" is far More than a Day in our time. "I speak of TIME for DEEP "Frozen Men" are Not aware of Time as We know it. They are Like Semi-comatose person, who Live breathe, Look & feel but still are unaware of So Utterly Many things as to constitute a "Nether World" to them. A Man in an ordinatry common Freeze is aware of Time, Sometimes ACUTELY so. Yet They are NEVER aware of Time precisely are you or I are aware of it. The First "Deep Freeze" As I said took 6 months to Rectify. It also took over 5 Million Dollars worth of Electronic equipment & a Special Ship Berth. If around or Near the Phiadelphia Navy Yard you see a group of Sailors in the act of Putting their Hands UPON a fellor OR upon "thin air", observe the Digits & appendages of the Stricken Man. If they seem to Waver, as tho within a Heat-Mirage, GO QUICKLY & Put YOUR Hands upon Him, FOR THAT MAN IS THE VERY MOST DESPERATE OF MEN IN THE WORLD. NOT ONE OF THOSE MEN EVER WANT ALL TO BECOME AGAIN INVISIBLE. I do Not think that Much More Need be said as Why Man is Not Ready for Force-Field Work. Eh? You Will Hear phrases from these Men such as "Caught in the Flow (or the Push)" or "Stuck in the Green" or "Stuck in Molasses" or "I was going FAST", These Refer to Some of the Decade-later after effects of Force-Field Work. "Caught in the Flow" Describes exactly the "Stuck in Molasses" sensation of a Man going into a "Deep Freeze" either of the two. "Caught in the Push" can either refer to That Which a Man feels Breifly WHEN he is either about to inadvertantly "Go-Blank" IE Become Invisible" or about to "Get Stuck" in a "Deep Freeze" or "Plain Freeze." There are only very few of the original Expierimental D-E's Crew Left by Now, Sir. Most went insane, one just walked "throo" His quarters Wall in sight of His Wife & Child & 2 other crew Members (WAS NEVER SEEN AGAIN), two "Went into The Flame" I.E. They "Froze" & caught fire, while carrying common Small-Boat Compasses, one Man carried the compass & Caught fire, the other came for the "Laying on of Hands" as he was nearest but he too, took fire. THEY BURNED FOR 18 DAYS. The faith in "Hand Laying" Died When this Happened & Mens Minds Went by the scores. The expieriment Was a Complete Success. The Men were Complete Failures. Check Philadelphia Papers for a tiny one Paragraph (upper Half of sheet, inside the paper Near the rear 3rd of Paper, 1944-46 in Spring or Fall or Winter, NOT Summer.) of an Item describing the Sailors Actions after their initial Voyage. They Raided a Local to the Navy Yard "Gin Mill" or "Beer Joint" & caused such a Shock & Paralysis of the Waitresses that Little comprehenssible could be gotten from them, save that Paragraph & the Writer of it, Does Not Believe it, & Says "I only wrote what I heard & them Dames is Daffy. So, all I get is a "Hide-it" Bedtime Story." Check obsever ship crew, Matson Lines Liberty ship out of Norfolk, (Company MAY Have Ships Log for that Voyage or Coast Guard have it) The S.S. Andrew Furuseth, Cheif Mate Mowsely, (Will secure Captains Name Later)(Ships Log Has Crew List on it.) one crew member Richard Price or "Splicey" Price May Remember other Names of Deck Crew Men, (Coast Guard has record of Sailors issued "Papers") Mr. Price Was 18 or 19 then, Oct. 1943 and Lives or Lived at that time in His old Family Home in Roanoke, V.A. a small town with Small phone book. These Men Were Witnesses, The Men of this crew, "Conally of New England, (Boston?), May have Witnessed but I doubt it. (Spelling May be incorrect) DID Witness this. i ask you to Do this bit of Research simply that you May Choke on your own Tongue when you Remember what you have "appealed be Made Law" Very Disrespectfully Yours, Carl M. Allen P.S. Will Help More if you see Where I can. Notes in addition to and pertaining to Missive. (Contact Rear Admiral Rawson Bennett for verification of into Herein. Navy Chief of Research. He may offer you a job, ultimately.) Coldly and analytically speaking, without the Howling that is in the Letter to you accompanying this, I will say the following in all Fairness to you & to Science. (1) The Navy did Not know that the men could become invisible WHILE NOT UPON THE SHIP & UNDER THE FIELDS INFLUENCE. (2) The Navy Did Not know that THERE WOULD BE Men Die from odd effects of HYPER "Field" within or upon "Field". (3) Further, They even yet do Not know Why this happened & are not even sure the the "F" within the "F" is the reason, for sure at all. IN SHORT The Atomic bomb didn't kill the expierimentors thus the expieriments went on - but eventually one or two were accidentally killed But THE CAUSE was known as to Why they died. Myself, I "feel" that something pertaining to that Small-boat compass "triggered" off "The Flames." I have no proof, but Neither Does the Navy. (4) WORSE & Not Mentioned When one or two of their Men, Visible- within-the-field-to-all-the-others, JUST WALKED INTO NOTHINGNESS, and Nothing Could be felt, of them, either when the "field" Was turned on OR off, THEY WERE JUST GONE! Then, More Fears Were Amassed. (5) Worse, Yet, When an apparently Visible & New-Man Just walks seemingly "throo" the Walls of his House, the surrounding area Searched by all Men & thoroughly scrutinized by & with & under an Installed Protable Field developer AND NOTHING EVER found of him. SO MANY MANY FEARS WERE BY THEN IN EFFECT THAT THE SUM TOTAL OF THEM ALL COULD NOT EVER AGAIN BE FACED BY ANY OF THOSE MEN OR BY THE MEN WORKING AT & UPON THE EXPERIMENTS. I wish to Mention that Somehow, also, The Experimental Ship Disappeared from its Philadelphia Dock and only a Very few Minutes Later appeared at its other Dock in the Norfolk, Newport News, Portsmouth area. This was distinctly AND clearly Identified as being that place BUT the ship then, AGAIN, Disappeared And Went BACK to its Philadelphia Dock in only a Very few Minutes or Less. This was also noted in the newspapers But I forget what paper I read it in or When It happened. Probably Late in the experiments, May have been in 1946 AFTER Experiments. were discontinued, I can Not Say for Sure. To the Navy this Whole thing was So Impractical due to its Morale Blasting effects Which were so much so that efficient operation of the Ship was Drastically hindered and than after this occurrence It was shown that even the Mere operation of a ship could Not be counted upon at all. In short, Ignorance of this thing bred such Terrors of it that, on the Level of attempted operations, with what knowledge was then available It was deemed as impossible, Impracticable and Too Horrible. I BELIEVE that Had YOU THEN been Working upon & With the team that was Working upon this project With yourself knowing what you NOW know, THAT "The Flames" Would Not have been SO UNEXPECTED, or Such a Terrifying Mystery. Also, More than Likely, I must say in All fairness, None of these other occurrences could have happened without some knowledge of their possibility of occuring. In fact, They May have been prevented by a far More Cautious Program AND by a Much more Cautiously careful Selection of Personnell for Ships officers & Crew. Such was not the case. The Navy used whatever HUMAN MATERIAL was at hand, Without Much, IF ANY, >>> Continued to next message . SLMR 2.1a . Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up. -- Michael Corbin - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Re: Rod: Wouldn't Eng 3/4 Date: 10 Nov 92 01:17:03 GMT * Forwarded from "Alt.Alien.Visitors" * Originally by Joseph Daniels * Originally to All * Originally dated 8 Nov 1992, 13:06 From: joseph.daniels%hombas@homebase.com (Joseph Daniels) Date: 8 Nov 92 00:56:00 GMT Organization: Home Base BBS - St. Thomas, ON - 519-633-7253 Message-ID: <1386.479.uupcb@homebase.com> Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors >>> Continued from previous message thought as to character & Personality of that Material. If care, Great Care is taken in selection of Ship, and officers and crew AND If Careful Indoctrination is taken ALONG with Careful watch over articles of apparel Such as rings & Watches & Identification bracelets & belt buckles, PLUS AND ESPECIALLY the effect of Hob- Nailed shoes or Cleated-shoes U.S. Navy issue shoes, I feel that some progress towards dissipating the fearfilled ignorance surrounding this project Will be Most surely & certainly accomplished. The Records of the U.S. Maritime SERVICE HOUSE Norfolk, Va (for Graduated Seamen of their Schools) Will reveal Who was assigned to S.S. Andrew Furuseth for Month of either Late Sept. or Oct. 1943. I remember positively of one other observer who stood beside Me When test were going on. He was from Hew England, Brown Blond Curly Hair, blue eyes, Don't remember Name. I leave it up TO YOU to Decide if further Work shall be put into this of Not, and Write this in Hopes there will be. Very Sincerely Carl M. Allen Carlos M. Allende RF 1 Box 223 New Kensington, Pa. Dear Mr. Jeesup: Having just recently gotten home from my long travels around the country I find that you had dropped me a card. You ask that I write you "at once" and So after taking everything into consideration, I have decided to do so. You ask me for what is tantamount to positive proof of something that only the duplication of those devices that produced "This phenomenon" could ever give you. at least, were I of scientific bent, I presume that, were I of Such a Curiosity about something, the which has been produced from a theory that was discarded (1927) as incomplete, I am sure that I would be of such a dubiousness that I would Have to be SHOWN those devices that produced such a curious interaction of Forces & Fields, in operation & thier product Mr. Jessup, I could NEVER possibly satisfy such an attitude. The reason being that I could not, Nor ever would the Navy Research Dept. (Then under the present boss of the Navy, Burke) ever let it be known that any such thing was ever allowed to be done. For you see, It was because of Burke's Curiosity & Willingness & prompting that this experiment was enabled to be carried out. It proved a White-elephant BUT His attitude towards advanced & ultra-advanced types of research is just "THE" THING that put him where he is today. (Or at least, to be sure, It carries a great weight). Were the stench of such an Experiments results EVER to come out, He would be crucified. However, I have noticed, the throo the ages, those who have had this happen to them, once the vulgar passions that caused the reaction have colled-off AND FURTHER research OPENLY carried on, THAT these crucified ones achieve something akin to Sainthood. You say that this, "is of the greatest importance". I disagree with you Mr. Jessup, not just whole Heartedly, BUT VEHEMENTLY. However at the same time, your ideas & your own sort of curiosity is that of mine own sort and besides my disagreement is based upon philosophical Morality and not upon that curiosity which Drives Science so rapidly. I can be of some positive help to you in myself but to do so would require a Hypnotist, Sodium Pentathol, a tape recorder & an excellent typist-secretary in order to produce material of REAL value to you. As you know one who is hypnotized cannot Lie and one who is both hypnotized AND given "Truth serum" as it is colloqually know COULD NOT POSSIBLY LIE, AT ALL. To boot, MY MEMORY would be THUS enabled to remember things in such GREAT DETAIL that my present consciousness cannot recall at all, or only barely and uncertainly that it would be of far greater benifit to use hypnosis. I could thus be enabled to NOT ONLY Recall COMPLETE Names, but also addresses & telephone numbers AND perhaps the VERY IMPORTANT Z numbers of those sailors whom I sailed with them or even came into contact with. I could too, being something of a Dialectician, be able to thusly talk exactly as these witnesses talked and imitate or ILLUSTRATE their Mannersims & HABITS OF THOUGHT, thus your psychologists can figure IN ADVANCE the Surefire method of dealing Most Successfully with these. I could NOT do this with someone with whom I had not observed at length & these men, I lived with for about 6 months, so you are bound to get good to excellent results. THE MINDS DOES NOT EVER FORGET, NOT REALLY, AS YOU KNOW. Upon this I suggest this way of doing this with Myself but further, the Latter usage of Myself in Mannersim & Thought pattern illustration is suggested in order that the Goal of inducing these Men TO PLACE THEMSELVES at & under you disposal (HYPNOTICALLY OR UNDER TRUTH SERUM) is a Goal, the Which could Have Far greater impact, due to co-relation of Expieriences remembered Hypnotically BY MEN WHO HAVE NOT SEEN OR EVEN WRITTEN TO EACH OTHER, AT ALL, FOR NEARLY TEN YEARS. In this, With such Men as Witnesses, giving irrefutable testimony It is my belief that were Not the Navy, BUT THE AIRFORCE, confronted with such evidence, (IE Cheif of Research) there would be either an uproar or a quiet and determined effort to achieve SAFELY "that which" the Navy failed at. They did NOT fail TO, I hope you realize, achieve Metalic & organic invisibility nor did they fail to, unbesoughtedly, achieve transportation of thousands of tons of Metal & Humans at an eyes blink speed. Even though this latter effect of prolonged experimentation was (to them) The thing that caused them to consider the experiment as a failure, I BELIEVE THAT FURTHER EXPERIMENTS WOULD NATURALLY HAVE PRODUCED CONTROLLED TRANSPORT OF GREAT TONNAGES AT ULTRA-FAST SPEEDS TO A DESIRED POINT THE INSTANT IT IS DESIRED throo usage of an area covered by: (1) those cargoes (2) that "Field" that could cause those goods, Ships or Ship parts (MEN WERE TRANSPORTED AS WELL) TO GO TO another Point. Accidentally & to the embarressed perplexity of the Navy THIS HAS ALREADY HAPPENED TO A WHOLE SHIP, CREW & ALL. I READ OF THIS AND of THE OFF-BASE AWOL ACTIVITIES OF THE crew-Men who were AT THE TIME invisible IN A PHILADEPHIA NEWSPAPER. UNDER NARCO-HYPNOSIS I CAN BE ENABLED TO DIVULGE THE NAME, DATE & SECTION & PAGE NUMBER of that Paper & the other one. THUS this papers "Morgue" will divulge EVEN MORE POSITIVE PROOF ALREADY PUBLISHED of this experiment. The name of the REPORTER who skeptically COVERED & WROTE of these incidents (OF THE RESTAURANT0BARROOM RAID WHILE INVISIBLE & OF THE SHIPS SUDDENT AWOL) AND WHO INTERVIEWED the Waitresses CAN THUS BE FOUND, thus HIS and the Waitresses testimony can be added to the Records. Once on this track, I beleive That you can uncover CONSIDERABLY MORE evidence to sustain this ---- (what would you call it -- SCANDAL or DISCOVERY?) You would Need a Dale Carneigie TO MANEUVER THESE FOLKS into doing just as you wish. It would be cheaper than paying everyone of all these witnesses & MUCH MORE ETHICAL. The Ideal Is, to the Layman type of person, utterly ridiculous. However, can you remember, all by yourself, the Date of a Newspaper in which you saw an interesting item more than 5 years ago? Or recall names of Men, their phone #s that you saw in 1943-44. I do hope you will consider this plan. You will Progress as Not possible in any other way. Of course, I realize that you would need a Man Who can cause people to want to have fun, to play with Hypnotism, one that can thusly those he-you need to: #1 come to His Demonstration & thus call on them to be either or both "Honored" as Helping with the show & for doing Him a Great favour, &/or being part of the act for the mite of a small fee He would HAVE to be a Man of such an adroit ingenuity at Manufacturing a PLAUSABLE STORY on the-instant-he-sizes-up-his PERSONALITY-TO-BE-DEALT with THAT had cost PLENTY. The ability to convince people of an outright Lie as being the absolute truth would be one of his prime prerequisites. (Ahem.) Yes, some such skulduggery would have to be thought well out & done. THE ULTIMATE END WILL BE A TRUTH TOO HUGE, TOO FANTASTIC, TO NOT BE TOLD. A WELL FOUNDED TRUTH, BACKED UP BY UNOBFUSCATIVE PROOF >>> Continued to next message . SLMR 2.1a . Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up. -- Michael Corbin - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Re: Rod: Wouldn't Eng 4/4 Date: 10 Nov 92 01:17:04 GMT * Forwarded from "Alt.Alien.Visitors" * Originally by Joseph Daniels * Originally to All * Originally dated 8 Nov 1992, 13:06 From: joseph.daniels%hombas@homebase.com (Joseph Daniels) Date: 8 Nov 92 00:56:00 GMT Organization: Home Base BBS - St. Thomas, ON - 519-633-7253 Message-ID: <1387.479.uupcb@homebase.com> Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors >>> Continued from previous message POSITIVE. I WOULD LIKE TO FIND WHERE IT IS THAT THESE SAILORS LIVE NOW. IT IS KNOWN that some few people can somehow tell you a mans name & His Home address UNDER HYPNOSIS EVEN THOUGH NEVER HAVING EVER MET OR SEEN THE PERSON. These folks have a very high or just high PSI factor in their make-up that can be intensified under stress or strain OR that usually is intensified under extreme fright. It also can be Re-intensified by Hypnosis, thus is like reading from the Encyclopedia Britanica. Even though that Barroom-Restaurant Raid was staged by invisible or partly invisible men, those men CAN SEE EACH OTHER THUS NAMES, In the excitement, were sure to have been Mentioned, whether last or first Names or Nicknames. A check of the Naval Yards Dispensories or Hospital of aid stations or prison RECORDS of that particular day that the Barroom-Restaurant occured May reveal the EXACT NAMES OF PRECISELY WHO WERE THE MEN, THEIR SERVICE SERIAL NUMBERS & THUS THE INFORMATION ON WHERE THEY ARE FROM BE SECURED & by adroit "Maneuvuerings" of those still at Home, THE NAME OF THE PLACE where they are at present can be secured. HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO ACTUALLY SPEAK TO (or some of THE MEN) A MAN WHO WAS ONCE AN INVISIBLE HUMAN BEING? (MAY BECOME SO IN FRONT OF YOUR VERY EYES IF HE TURNS-OFF HIS HIP SET) Well, all this fantastically Preposterous sort of rubbish WILL BE necessary, Just to do that, the Hypnotist-psychologist & all that. Maybe I suggest something TOO thorough & TOO Methodical for your taste but then, I, as first subject, Don't care to be Hypnotized AT ALL, But too, feel that certain pull of curiosity about this thing that, to me, is irresistable. I want to crack this thing wide open. My reasons are simply to enable work to be done upon this "Field Theory." I am a star-gazer Mr. Jessup. I make no bones about this and the fact that I feel IF HANDLED PROPERLY, I.E. PRESENTED TO PEOPLE & SCIENCE IN THE PROPER PSYCHOLOGICALLY EFFECTIVE MANNER, I feel sure that Man will go where He now dreams of being - to the stars via the form of transport that the Navy accidentally stumbled upon (to their embarrassment) when their EXP. SHIP took off & popped-up a minute or so later on several Hundred sea travel-trip miles away at another of its Berths in the Chesapeake Bay area. I read of THIS in another news paper & only by Hypnosis could ANY Man remember all the details of which paper, date of occurance & etc. you see? Eh. Perhaps already the Navy has used this accident of transport to build your UFO's. It is a logical advance from any standpoint. What do YOU think??? VERY RESPECTFULLY Carl Allen The Allen News Paper Article In the Allen Papers, Carl Allen refers to a newspaper article that he claims would support his claims. Below is supposedly a copy of that newspaper article: Strange Circumstances Surround Tavern Brawl Several city police officers responding to a call to aid members of the Navy Shore Patrol in breaking up a tavern brawl near the U.S. Navy docks here last night got something of a surprise when they arrived on the scene to find the place empty of customers. According to a pair of very nervous waitresses, the Shore Patrol had arrived first and cleared the place out - but not before two of the sailors involved allegedly did a disappearing act. "They just sort of vanished into thin air...right there," reported one of the frightened hostesses, "and I ain't been drinking either!" At that point, according to her account, the Shore Patrol proceeded to hustle everybody out of the place in short order. A subsequent chat with the local police precinct left no doubts as to the fact that some sort of general brawl had indeed occurred in the vicinity of the dockyards at about eleven o'clock last night, but neither confirmation nor denial of the stranger aspects of the story could be immediately obtained. One reported witness succinctly summed up the affair by dismissing it as nothing more that "a lot of hooey from them daffy dames down there," who, he went on to say, were probably just looking for some free publicity. Damage to the tavern was estimated to be in vicinity of six hundred dollars. Patric Macey, an electronic specialist and researcher recounts this story told to him by another worker called Jim in 1977: "I was a guard for classified audiovisual material, and late in 1945 I was in a position, while on duty in Washington, to see part of a film viewed by a lot of Navy brass, pertaining to an experiment done at sea...it showed two other ships feeding some sort of energy into the central ship...After a time the central ship, a destroyer, disappeared slowly into a transparent fog until all that could be seen was an imprint of that ship in the water. Then, when the field, or whatever it was, was turned off, the ship reappeared slowly out of a thin fog...Somebody mentioned an incident where one of the crewmen apparently disappeared while drinking in a bar. Somebody else commented that the crew were 'still not in their right minds, and may never be.' There were also some references to some of the crew having vanished permanently." . SLMR 2.1a . 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