Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 622 Saturday, February 6th 1993 (C) Copyright 1992 Paranet Information Service. All Rights Reserved. Today's Topics: Re: COVER STORY? Re: Cover Story? Quality reporting - NOT! Colorado UFO!! Colorado UFO Update TV ALERT: Unsolved Mysteries, Feb. 3 Quality reporting - NOT! LINDA REPORT - 15/15 Denver UFO Report Re: "TRUTH" Re: "TRUTH" Vatican sets evangelical sights on outer space Quality reporting - NOT! COVER STORY? "Truth" "TRUTH" Re: stink Re: Paper on abductions ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Galt@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Galt) Subject: Re: COVER STORY? Date: 22 Jan 93 19:51:19 GMT flying a NUCLEAR REACTOR! It was `he' that I (without naming him) referred to in my last paper. << Schuessler was sent each and all of my papers as they were written. He also directly addressed my material in a letter he wrote. I have a copy. Also, Stan Friedman endorsed - in writing - my work in a letter to me dated January 17, 1990 in which he states, "I really think you are on the right track ... " >> I think, at this point, you may be getting the `picture' as to where I am coming from in writing this letter. The date of the Cash/Landrum incident (I believe it was December of 1980) seems to fit `comfortably' into the chronological development and deployment pattern I am firm- ly establishing as concerns the `secret B-2 - UFO'. Because this is so, I am rapidly beginning to believe the two (UFO/B-2 & Cash/Landrum craft) are connected. Though I cer- tainly yield to your expertise on this matter, I'd like to explain my brief hypothesis as to `how' they may be connect- ed and `why' I am beginning to think so. Firstly, it seems evident (to me at least) that the pre- sence of what is believed to be `retro-fire' on the Cash/ Landrum craft coupled with the facts that it was seen to `hover' and to be in the company of military helicopters along with the `radiation burns' and the dis-similarity of it's outward appearance from the `typical' descriptions of other UFOs seems to imply that it `could' have been a TEST VEHICLE for NUCLEAR POWERED UFO (anti-gravitational) TECH- NOLOGY. My feeling is that the `retro-fire' may have come from a `back-up' system that may have been incorporated in case the `anti-gravity' field grew weak or failed. It seems to make sense both from the standpoint of `pilot safety' and in view of the event that was witnessed - namely that the craft seemed to come down at a location that clearly was `unintended' This, of course, being the SAME technology that I believe found it's way into the UFO/B-2! << It was later learned that the fed removed the entire stretch of highway where the event occurred and hauled >>>> FROM: TON GONSALVES JR. (PXRR66A) SUBJECT: UFO - PYRAMID About the pyramid/Nixon/USA material: I have been very carefully observing the replys in this topic to see what direction they would take. To date, only Mack and Antara have taken the `high road' in so far as being able to understand and appreciate the nature of the material. . With this in mind, perhaps it would be better if I limited further posts to `e-mail' and thereby not burden anyone else with what has been described as borderline `meaningless'. I am not threatening to stop posting. It's just that I am observing what can only be interpreted as `resistance' to the material. This, a willing contributor it does not make. With all due respect to `everyone's' right to their own opinions, I am going to refrain from posting anything further in this area until such time as Mack and Antara are joined by others who `may' have as serious an interest. I am only yielding to the majority's expressed wishes. In the event that this is the destiny , I can only add that I have a tremendous amount of material in this area and that what has been posted represents less than 1 or 2% of it. And NO, I am not trying to entice anyone here. I only say this so others will know that I could go on posting this material for at least the next month if I wished to. I am not a foolish man. I did not come to believe this material on a whim. I came to it after years of research and study in many areas of study. It is valid. I think one of the final proofs comes in the fact that President Nixon DID resign at 12 noon on August 9th, 1974 - EXACTLY as determined through `calculation' and NOT by any psychic means. It was `concisely calculated' - not `psychically predicted'. His background , and a whole host of other related material was researched and examined - all of which pointed to his resignation in the `specific' year of 1974 - on the `specific' date of August 9th - at the `specific' hour, minute and second of 12 o'clock noon. And, in closing, may I add that I gave `numerous' presentations on the Nixon material for 2 years prior to the resignation. So, there are hundreds of people who can verify the facts. Finally, if I have offended anyone's intelligence with this material I apologize. I certainly would not want to impose anything `new ' upon anyone of higher intelligence who is comfortable and content with their present way of thinking. 8 8 8 Tony INRI past state future HISTORY estate MYSTERY HIS-STORY GESTATE MY-STORY Public Domain Yet to come ---end of Prodigy message--- My question is does this make any sense? Is this guy playing with a full deck or am I missing something that makes an obvious connection here? Sorry about the form but copied text just doesn't come out the same on Fido as it was on Prodigy. -- John Galt - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Galt@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Burke@f9.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (John Burke) Subject: Re: Cover Story? Date: 25 Jan 93 09:13:00 GMT I guess this stuff came from Tony Gonsalves, godfather of the "There is model of the B2 that's a UFO" hypothesis: > > I am not a foolish man. . . . Speaking of Nixon, he once felt compelled to say: "I am not a crook." > > > 8 8 8 Tony INRI > > past state future > > HISTORY estate MYSTERY > > HIS-STORY GESTATE MY-STORY > > Public Domain Yet to come > > ---end of Prodigy message--- > > My question is does this make any sense? Yes. It makes non - sense. > Is this guy > playing with a full deck or am I missing something that > makes an obvious connection here? Well, we can all see that he has at least three Eights! Anyway, you'd think that he'd realize, with both Bill Knell *and* Stanton Friedman telling him that he's "on to something" -- that he's WASTING HIS TIME. Some people never learn! -- John -- John Burke - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Burke@f9.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul.Faeder@f70.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Paul Faeder) Subject: Quality reporting - NOT! Date: 24 Jan 93 04:40:00 GMT Subliminal messages? I was reading a newspaper article which originally appeared in the Keene NH SENTINEL on Sept. 25, 1992, was clipped and reappeared in the UFO Newsclipping Service in December 1992, page 5. The article is titled "Do you believe in UFOs?" by Paul Montgomery and after reading it I became aware of a sort of subtle message and I now wonder if this sort of subtlety is rampant. What follows are selected passages from the article which will appear in quotes. I will capitalize those unobjective, opinionated comments that lend an air of absurdity to the entire article - the subliminal message being that UFO believers are crazy. Well, see what you think. Referring to Stan Gordon : "Among the speakers: a self-described investigator who gained national prominence as the primary investigator for the -STEADY NOW- famous 1973 ufo-big foot encounters in Pennsylvania." Referring to John Mack: "...Mack reported that a Roper poll found that perhaps more than 3 million adults in the United States alone may have had alien-abduction experiences. Three million people. THAT COULD ACCOUNT FOR SAGGING CONCERT TICKET SALES." Referring to the UFO convention he was covering the writer says: "People attending the convention weren't there for flying saucer talk OR TO HEAR SOME GUY NAMED CLEM TELL HOW HE 'DONE SEE THIS FIREBALL GO KER-PLUNK IN THE SWAMP'." Referring to abductee Peter Faust, the writer says: "Peter Faust, WHO LOOKS A BIT LIKE THE NOTORIOUS MASSACHUSETTS WIFE- MURDERER CHARLES STUART, sat in front of the camera..." Continuing, Faust says: " 'They got what they wanted,' Faust is saying. 'They do it all the time. They take my seed.' OKAY. SO, FAUST HAD JUST HAD AN ORGASM INDUCED BY THE ALIENS AND HE'S COMPLAINING ABOUT IT? " There are other comments I could mention but I think the point is made. These type of subtle, flippant, comedic remarks are clearly superfluous and not at all germain to the "news" story that was supposed to have been reported. Unfortunately, this type of irresponsible reporting is nothing but damaging to those that seriously want the UFO enigma investigated scientifically and I wonder just how wide-spread is this practice? -- Paul Faeder - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Paul.Faeder@f70.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike.Keithly@p0.f608.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Mike Keithly) Subject: Colorado UFO!! Date: 27 Jan 93 04:27:01 GMT Just heard through two sources of a UFO sighting in South western Jefferson County, in the Ken Caryl Valley. A yellow shepd UFO with flashing lights was seen over the Manor House (a residential House for events) it was seen on Sunday January 24 at 7:25pm MST. Several Jefferson County Sheriffs were witness to this and the Sheriffs department itself was flooded with between 200 and 300 calls on this object. My sources were Channel 4 and head it through my CB Radio. I will post more as details become available. Mike Keithly -- Mike Keithly - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Mike.Keithly@p0.f608.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike.Keithly@p0.f608.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Mike Keithly) Subject: Colorado UFO Update Date: 28 Jan 93 04:58:01 GMT A little more detail on the object scene in the Ken Caryl Ranch area on Sunday Jan 24 1993. I myself talked to the sheriff today and he shed a little more light on a few things. It was anywhere from 500 to 1000 feet above the location, also it had a band of yellow lights below the bright light as well. Some Investigators from MICAP and ParaNet are as I type are on there way to look it over and talk to the sheriff about this. Also NORAD was contacted to and did not show anything on there radar. One other possibility is our skys the past week have been clear and some of the planets are visible, we are checking out a star chart to see if they had something to do with being bright and maybe the source of this. I will keep posting as more becomes available.. Mike Keithly MICAP BBS Sysop.. -- Mike Keithly - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Mike.Keithly@p0.f608.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vanth!jms Subject: TV ALERT: Unsolved Mysteries, Feb. 3 Date: 28 Jan 93 08:11:29 GMT From: vanth!jms@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (Jim Shaffer) Next week's (February 3) episode of Unsolved Mysteries is going to have a videotape of a landed or crashed UFO and a government helicopter. The tape is anonymous, but there is allegedly an independent witness. -- * From the disk of: | jms@vanth.uucp | 'there's a hell of Jim Shaffer, Jr. | uunet!cbmvax!vanth!jms | a good universe 37 Brook Street | jms%vanth@cbmvax.commodore.com | next door; let's go' Montgomery, PA 17752 | 72750.2335@compuserve.com | (e.e. cummings) -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clark.Matthews@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Clark Matthews) Subject: Quality reporting - NOT! Date: 29 Jan 93 05:44:00 GMT In a message to All <23 Jan 93 21:40> Paul Faeder wrote: PF> Subliminal messages? PF> I was reading a newspaper article which originally appeared in the PF> Keene NH SENTINEL on Sept. 25, 1992, was clipped and reappeared PF> in the UFO Newsclipping Service in December 1992, page 5. Hi Paul. That name ... Paul Montgomery ... rings a bell. I thought that this Montgomery chap could be the same byline that wrote a caustic sendup of the Hudson Valley UFO watchers about 3 years ago? The article appeared in the Gannett Westchester papers (all of them) and was especially cruel to Ellen Silver. But it seems not. The Gannett article was a little AP "rip and read" torpedo, which they're so good at doing. Well, let us raise a glass to Mr. Paul Montgomery, phillistine, if there really ever was such a person in the first place... Best, Clark -- Clark Matthews - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Clark.Matthews@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sheldon.Wernikoff@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Sheldon Wernikoff) Subject: LINDA REPORT - 15/15 Date: 27 Jan 93 23:11:00 GMT PP>But if Dan doesn't exist, how can he have died? That's something else to PP>ponder. Some sort of paradox involved. Yeah Pete... this case gets more bizarre all the time. Perhaps there is something to your philosophy of "e spiritus fermenti" after all. I'll try it tonight and let you know what I uncover. --Sheldon * OLX 2.1 TD * ********** ( + ) = ( -- Sheldon Wernikoff - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Sheldon.Wernikoff@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: William.Early@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (William Early) Subject: Denver UFO Report Date: 29 Jan 93 20:37:00 GMT Sighting Report 1/27/93 Date: The date of the incident was January 24th, 1993. The first reports came in to the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office (9-1-1) at 19:38 hours (7:38 PM). Two Sheriff's deputies were dispatched to the area to meet with the first man reporting unusual lights hanging in the sky at 19:39 hours (7:39 PM) to investigate. Location: The area of the Ken Caryl Ranch [located South-West of the Denver, Colorado metro area] - [centered over the top of the mountain that is the apparent center of the Ken Caryl West Ranch]. The primary object (large white intense light) was estimated to have hovered about 800 to 1000 feet above ground level. The five small objects (yellow lights) that were also observed at the same time were located approximately 100 feet above the ground, below and to the left of the large white object. What occurred: The first reports occurred at 19:38 hours when the public (twelve individuals) reported to the Sheriff's office that they were seeing "strange lights illuminating their houses". One person also reported that "someone was causing his electra/mechanical garage door to keep opening and closing" and [sic] that his "house was being light up by a bright light from somewhere" [sic] an unknown source. A woman called for help from law enforcement officers stating that "someone was shining a bright light in her windows, and she was scared". A third car in the area was dispatched. The first car in the area arrived only a couple of minutes after the initial call to police. Officer M.S. (93012401.01) was first observed the primary light from I-470 and Ken Caryl road. This is approximately 3 miles from the later sightings. He was ordered to meet with one of the public witnesses at that location. The witness was not there, because he had not returned yet from his home where he went to make the call to law enforcement authorities. Officer M.S. (93012401.01) decided to continue into the housing area and investigate the "bright light" that he was observing. He had to drive West about 1/2 a mile to enter the area through the "Hog Back" (for information: a geological area that appears like small mountains with a cut through them for the roadway). For the minute that it took to traverse that distance, the bright object was out of his field of view. When he cleared the area of the roadway cut he again regained visual sighting of the object. The officer proceeded up the road to a better visual vantage point. He entered the parking lot of the " Bradford Elementary " school and parked his car. From this position near the base of the first range of mountains facing West; he and his K-9 partner exited the police car to better observe the bright object over the mountain. His dog didn't show any unusual signs as Officer M.S. observed the object. At this time Officer M.S. estimated that the "bright white object was about a half mile away" (West-North-West). The officer stated that he estimated that the object was about 12 feet in diameter. And that it was about as bright as looking into a high intensity flood light from close proximity as compared to star light which is extremely dim by comparison. {NOTE: One needs to know that this housing area is in a very small valley that shields light and noise from Denver to the North-East. When we (the investigative teams) have been in the area at night: you can hear people on the street talking to each other in a normal voice from several hundred feet away. There is virtually no ambient light or noise in the area.} Officer M.S. stated that during the whole 40+ plus minutes that he was able to observe any or all of the lights; that there was no sound associated with the objects. Officer M.S. returned to his car and was contacted by other officers that had also moved into the area and could also see the lights over the mountains. A police supervisor who could see the primary object, drove around the mountain to the back (Western) side of the Ken Caryl West Ranch. It took him about an hour to work his way to a point where he could again observe the area above the housing area. Due to the time necessary to get to that location, he was never able to see the bright white object again. Officers engaged in discussion about the objects over the police radio for about 40 minutes. Jefferson County Sheriff's dispatchers contacted the Air Traffic Control Tower at Stapleton Airport. Controllers there said that they could see the object clearly from the control tower approximately 20 miles distant. But stated that the object was too low to be observed by radar due to the "ground clutter" caused by the reflectivity of the earth surface. They contacted Centennial Airport tower. Personnel there couldn't see it. Buckley Air Force Base tower (East of Stapleton Airport) stated that they could see a light, but didn't know what it was. They denied that any military aircraft were in the area or working near the area. Norad Air Defense Command in Colorado Springs was called. Controllers there stated that they couldn't identify any airborne object above that area. They also stated that they were unaware of any military aircraft that might be operation high over the area. {They cannot "see" down close to the ground there except by looking down by satellite.} Commercial aircraft continued to fly an evening landing approach to Stapleton near to the area without abetment. The tower from Stapleton asked a couple of the landing aircraft if they had observed anything flying close to the ground in the area with a bright light, however they stated that they hadn't seen any aircraft. Officer M.S. changed his position several times, noting that the primary light had now been joined by 5 small yellow lights that were very low over the mountain, and to the South of the central object. He noted that the lights would disappear for a minute or so just as if someone had turned off a light switch. Then they would come on again suddenly. The atmosphere was clear with a visibility of a hundred miles that night. No clouds were in the area, high or low. Officer M.S. had a very clear view during most of the 40+ plus minutes that he drove around the area or observed from the side of the road. He stated that there was never any noise observed during the incident; humming, turbine sounds, blade sounds that are made by helicopters nor engine sounds from any engine associated with the incident. All was very quiet. The only occasional noise was associated with aircraft that were approaching Stapleton Airport. He further stated that he didn't see any "beams going down to the ground, or anything like that". The lights didn't appear to move, flicker, change in intensity, or maneuver in any erratic fashion. The only unusual phenomenon observed was that the lights would blink out for a few seconds; then reappear in about the same place a few seconds later. This occurred while the officer was outside his patrol car, within 3/4 of a mile of the light, and not moving. This effect was observed by all of the officers except the police supervisor who drove around the mountain to come up on the object from the back side. No ill effects were reported either by the officers involved nor by the reporting public. No physical trace evidence has been found nor is expected to be found because the objects were not observed actually on the earth surface. Addendum: January 1993 Astronomical Overview of 1993 Denver Skies astronomical highlights copyright 1993 Final Copy, Inc. ***PLANETS*** MERCURY The closest planet to the sun is never easy to see. However, it will be in the early evening western sky from early February to early March, from the last week in May to the first week in July, and from the second week in September through October. It will be in the pre-dawn eastern sky between mid-March and the first week of May, the last week in July through the third week in August, and mid-November through mid-December. VENUS Typically this planet is easy to find because it is so bright. Look for it in the west after sunset from now through the end of March. It will be in the eastern morning sky from late April until early December. Mars This month the Red Planet is closest to Earth and the brightest for the next two years. Although January is the best month to view, Mars is in the evening sky until the last week in December, though it will be lost in the glow of the setting sun some weeks before. The investigation is continuing. -- William Early - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: William.Early@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Pete Porro) Subject: Re: "TRUTH" Date: 26 Jan 93 23:37:05 GMT I should read Jacobs book. From his discussions on Paranet, he seems faily level (fair and level) in his approach. I just don't know if the others start with a search for truth, and end up with a quest for financial gain above all reason. In other fields it's called selling out. I don't expect the abduction questions to go away with the ease of Meier, Mr. Ed, or Crop circles. There's still too much happeneing and too many people who have had experiences like this to discount that they honestly "Believe they have been abducted". What's behind it, is still an open question. -- Pete Porro - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim.Greenen@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Greenen) Subject: Re: "TRUTH" Date: 28 Jan 93 15:27:00 GMT * Replying to a message originally to Sheldon Wernikoff PP> I should read Jacobs book. From his discussions on Paranet, PP> he seems faily level (fair and level) in his approach. I PP> just don't know if the others start with a search for PP> truth, and end up with a quest for financial gain above all PP> reason. In other fields it's called selling out. I don't PP> expect the abduction questions to go away with the ease of PP> Meier, Mr. Ed, or Crop circles. There's still too much PP> happeneing and too many people who have had experiences PP> like this to discount that they honestly "Believe they have PP> been abducted". What's behind it, is still an open PP> question. PP> --- TBBS v2.1/NM PP> * Origin: ParaNet XI-Alpha=- Radio Free Milw 4143526176HST PP> (1:154/414) Pete, I read the book and tought it was well written. It bother me in a since that if the material is true, these or those aliens have complete mine control over us. The only other person I know that do that is my wife. Scares the hell out of person. I carry the UFO Magazine in the store, if you want one let me know. And Yes, Don and Vicki do a excellent job on the magazine and I recommend it to all that visit the UFO Museum. 73's --Jim--- -- Jim Greenen - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Greenen@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul.Faeder@f70.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Paul Faeder) Subject: Vatican sets evangelical sights on outer space Date: 27 Jan 93 05:26:00 GMT * Forwarded from "R L News Clips" * Originally by Carl Aztec * Originally to All * Originally dated 25 Jan 1993, 19:23 DAILY TELEGRAPH, London England Oct. 28, 1992 NCS Dec. 1992 pg. 15 vatican1.txt Vatican sets evangelical sights on outer space By Bruce Johnston In Rome THE Roman Catholic Church is to team up with America's space agency to look for life in outer space and so spread the Gospel to extraterrestrials. Jesuit priests who run the Vatican Observatory near Rome say they are joining forces with the US Nasa agency to hunt for UFOs and signs of life on planets in solar systems similar to Earth's. NASA's job will be to monitor for "alien" communication signals; the Vatican, which has helped to build a new reflector telescope in Tucson, Arizona, would search for planets displaying conditions for life. The Vatican's new telescope, which Father George Coyne, director of the Vatican Observatory, said would be "ready for use within the next few days, and unveiled to the public in January", is a joint venture with the University of Arizona. He said it was "not the most powerful in the world, but certainly the most novel" and the most accurate. Should intelligent alien life be found, Fr Coyne said, "the Church would be obliged to address the question of whether extra terrestrials might be brought within the fold and baptised". "Why not, if we have the pleasure of meeting them?" asked the Jesuit astronomer, who with nine other clerics runs the Observatory in Tucson, another in Canada, and the Vatican Observatory. Fr Coyne said the Church's attitude to science had radically changed since the Inquisition, which demanded in 1633 that Galileo should back down from his theory that the earth was not the centre of the Universe. He added that for the Church to suddenly find itself meeting an extra terrestrial being could pose "complications from a theological point". "First of all", Fr Coyne said, "one would need to put some questions to him, such as: 'Have you ever experienced something similar to Adam and Eve, in other words original sin?" And then: "Do you people also know a Jesus who has redeemed you?" -- Paul Faeder - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Paul.Faeder@f70.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don.Allen@p1.f81.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Allen) Subject: Quality reporting - NOT! Date: 29 Jan 93 03:21:00 GMT > Subliminal messages? > I was reading a newspaper article which originally appeared in the > Keene NH SENTINEL on Sept. 25, 1992, was clipped and reappeared > in the UFO Newsclipping Service in December 1992, page 5. > The article is titled "Do you believe in UFOs?" by Paul Montgomery > and after reading it I became aware of a sort of subtle message and > I now wonder if this sort of subtlety is rampant. > What follows are selected passages from the article which will appear > in quotes. I will capitalize those unobjective, opinionated comments > that lend an air of absurdity to the entire article - the subliminal > message being that UFO believers are crazy. Well, see what you think. Hey thanks for posting this Paul..it was very disturbing to read such biased subliminal reporting in that article and really aggravates me. Don -- Don Allen - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Don.Allen@p1.f81.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don.Allen@p1.f81.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Allen) Subject: COVER STORY? Date: 29 Jan 93 03:23:02 GMT > Firstly, it seems evident (to me at least) that the pre- > sence of what is believed to be `retro-fire' on the Cash/ > Landrum craft coupled with the facts that it was seen to > `hover' and to be in the company of military helicopters > along with the `radiation burns' and the dis-similarity of > it's outward appearance from the `typical' descriptions of > other UFOs seems to imply that it `could' have been a TEST > VEHICLE for NUCLEAR POWERED UFO (anti-gravitational) TECH- > NOLOGY. My feeling is that the `retro-fire' may have come > from a `back-up' system that may have been incorporated in > case the `anti-gravity' field grew weak or failed. It seems > to make sense both from the standpoint of `pilot safety' and > in view of the event that was witnessed - namely that the > craft seemed to come down at a location that clearly was > `unintended' This, of course, being the SAME technology > that I believe found it's way into the UFO/B-2! << It was > later learned that the fed removed the entire stretch of > highway where the event occurred and hauled >>>> That was certainly an interesting post! Was he in a drug induced mental state when he wrote it? :-) Don -- Don Allen - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Don.Allen@p1.f81.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don.Allen@p1.f81.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Allen) Subject: "Truth" Date: 29 Jan 93 03:26:03 GMT > What about Roswell... Two recent books out - but I haven't heard > of any _new_ mainstream scientists joining the quest for truth. I don't suppose you read where Ed Dames has pulled his hocus-pocus Ingo Swann impersonation and declared that Roswell was simply a hoax of gigantic proportions! Quick..you hold him down, while I fasten the jacket :} Don -- Don Allen - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Don.Allen@p1.f81.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don.Allen@p1.f81.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Allen) Subject: "TRUTH" Date: 29 Jan 93 03:30:04 GMT > I should read Jacobs book. From his discussions on Paranet, he seems > faily level (fair and level) in his approach. I just don't know if > the others start with a search for truth, and end up with a quest for > financial gain above all reason. In other fields it's called selling > out. I don't expect the abduction questions to go away with the ease > of Meier, Mr. Ed, or Crop circles. There's still too much happeneing > and too many people who have had experiences like this to discount > that they honestly "Believe they have been abducted". What's behind > it, is still an open question. By all means Pete, buy the book and have a read..it's fascinating and very thought provoking. It's not Dr. Jacobs I have a problem with; I believe his work speaks for itself; it's the disturbing circus with Budd Hopkins and the Linda "case" that bothers me and makes me wonder about your point of "selling out". Still, no refutation as of yet of the "three guys from Jersey" 's report. Don -- Don Allen - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Don.Allen@p1.f81.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Powell@f601.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Powell) Subject: Re: stink Date: 27 Jan 93 00:54:00 GMT -=> Quoting Tom Davis to John Powell <=- TD> Probably, on a similar basis, the people on the hill TD> recognized an odor unpleasant and unfamiliar and simply TD> said, "It stank." Yep, most likely. What do you think of some of the various theories that connect monster sightings (Bigfoot, etc.) with UFOs? Thanks, take care. John. - ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.10 -- John Powell - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Powell@f601.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff.Brewi@p0.f812.n202.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jeff Brewi) Subject: Re: Paper on abductions Date: 30 Jan 93 16:41:24 GMT AK> Dr. Robert Baker, who has taught psychology at Stanford University, MI AK> the University of Kentucky (where he is professor emeritus of psycholo AK> who is coauthor of the widely used textbook _Psychology_for_Man_, has AK> a fascinating paper on alien abductions. AK> In "Alien Abductions or Alien Productions?: Some Not So Unusual Perso AK> Experiences," Dr. Baker discusses the position that alien abduction re AK> (especially those recalled under hypnosis) are the result of the AK> misunderstanding of common sleep disorders by abduction researchers. AK> I'd be happy to send a copy of this 30 page report to anyone intereste Anson, My wife and I are quite interested in this phenomenon and doing research into the possibility of not-so-alien abductions. We would appreciate a copy of this paper! Please send to P.O. Box 689 Palm Springs, CA 92263 If you'd like, we can reimburse you for the expenses (i.e. photocopying and postage). Thanks! Jeff -- Jeff Brewi - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jeff.Brewi@p0.f812.n202.z1.FIDONET.ORG ******************************************************************************* Submissions infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com Administrative requests infopara-request@scicom.alphacdc.com FTP archive grind.isca.uiowa.edu:/info/paranet/infopara Permission to distribute Michael.Corbin@paranet.org Private mail to Paranet/Fidonet users firstname.lastname@paranet.org UUCP gateway {ncar,isis,csn}!scicom *********************End**of**the**InfoPara**Newsletter************************