Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 627 Monday, March 1st 1993 (C) Copyright 1993 Paranet Information Service. All Rights Reserved. Today's Topics: Stink VWQUAKES SITE7.UFO VWQUAKES VWQUAKES Re: "truth" "truth" Baker Paper Re: "TRUTH" I GOT FOOLED TOO! Cattle Mute Article Cattle Mute Update New Classification and Rating System -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Powell@f601.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Powell) Subject: Stink Date: 14 Feb 93 20:05:00 GMT -=> Quoting Tom Davis to John Powell <=- TD> "What do you think of some of the various theories that connect TD> monster sightings?" TD> The anitquated notion that Bigfoot is the survivor of some TD> ancient UFO crash is entertaining, but not very likely; not TD> impossible, just not likely. What about GSW? Where could I find info on the beginning era of that stuff? Thanks, take care. John. - ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 -- John Powell - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: John.Powell@f601.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim.Greenen@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Greenen) Subject: VWQUAKES Date: 21 Feb 93 17:31:01 GMT Hi Pete, could someone ask John Minsch how a sonic boom could occur without a auditable sound. Maybe I am mistaken but I thought that when a aircraft breacks the sound barrier there is a very loud noise that is produced. 73's ---Jim--- -- Jim Greenen - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Greenen@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Pete Porro) Subject: SITE7.UFO Date: 18 Feb 93 17:00:02 GMT TIME: 02/17 9:29 AM TO: ALL FROM: CARL ARRINGTON (FNSS25A) SUBJECT: ALL READ: SITE SEVEN ANNOUNCEMENT: I have come across some dramatic photographic evidence that MAY indicate the DISCOVERY of what is being called "Site Seven," a heretofore unidentified locale of exotic geological/cosmic activity. CAVEAT EMPTOR:This could be a very elaborate, clever hoax. Best to presume this until further verification. WHAT I KNOW: I have personally examined a set of 5 x 7 }} color photographs purportedly taken at "Site Seven." (There may also be videotapes.) A source who I will henceforth call "The Narrator" claims to have taken these photos within the past year. I have NOT been told the exact location of "Site Seve"--or even on what continent the photos were taken. The source of this material seems very anxious to preserve the physical integrity of the site. The photos appear to have been taken during a sunny day in what could be a desert mountain area. Several shots show unmarked open fissures or deep caves with melted rock coming out from these hubs in radial formation. The }}} Narrator said "Site Seven" covered an area of at least 1 sq. mile and appears to have been subjected to intense blasts of heat and energy. There are no signs of fresh volcanic lava, but the landscape has clearly been dramatically altered by SOMETHING. Certain rock formations indicate nonrandom geometric patterning. Medium close-up shots show cream-colored rocks (not found outside "S-7") which The Narrator theorizes might have once comprised the outer shell of some object like an asteroid or meteor. One photo depicts a translucent brownish rock that looks like it contains a snake's head solidified in stone.}} Other photos show two large blackened tree trunks which appear to have been defoliated by some intense heat source. In the base of one of these trees is a smooth oblong shell-like hole (approx. 1 ft. diameter) cleanly burned into the trunk with a charred, assymetrical hole disappearing into the bottom. Visible in a close-up inside the hole is what appears to be a grey metallic (?) object about 5 inches across that is roughly the same shape as the charred opening. The Narrator reports that when someone put their hand into the opening they felt what they describe as "a shock or jolt of electricity." (No verification of this.)}} The growth of large crystal beds is also reported at "S-7." One party reported hearing a high-pitched tone or buzz in the area. Others did not hear it. WHAT TO MAKE OF ALL OF THIS? It depends. A geologist might quickly identify "S-7" as the ground zero of intense meteor showers or a spot where the dust of an ancient comet tail touched down. Even more exotic explanations are possible. Regardless, it is clear to me that "Site Seven" warrants further exploration to determine the exact nature of the phenomena in these photographs & witness reports. If you think you can provide substantive resources or }}} expertise to this project, please contact me by PRIVATE MESSAGE. Serious principals ONLY. Punters, skeptics or the merely curios-minded may feel free to kick around this information on bb's or any other pulic forums. NOTE: To protect the exclusive nature of this story and my source, I may have deliberately placed several pieces of misinformation in this announcement. AND, we haven't told you everything we've seen. CA Filename: "SITE7.MSG" Comment: I'm at this time, totally unconvinced about this report. I won't take the time to pick it apart until I hear from anyone else who has any confirmation of any of it. Biggest problem is the author admits he has included false information. I suppose that way when it doesn't match, he can say, Oh that was part of the text to confuse you about the site etc. I did reply to him and asked why if we are supposed to be against secrecy and disinformation did he post false information and try to keep it a secret? My other thought is for him to send the real facts to 1000 people and that way insure it would not get lost or covered up. -- Pete Porro - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Pete Porro) Subject: VWQUAKES Date: 19 Feb 93 19:47:56 GMT Mystery Tremor Felt in West Virginia Hundreds of people in southern West Virginia reported feeling the earth shake and hearing a thunder-like sound Monday evening, but authorities are at a loss to say what caused it. The US Geological Survey's Natl Earthquake Information Center in Golden, Colo, said there was nothing to indicate an earthquake had occurred. Emergency officials in Raleigh and Fayette counties are investigating, said Scott Tygrett, a dispatcher for the Fayette County sheriff's office. Brian Fox, a disc jockey at WJLS radio in Beckley, said he had 400-500 calls from Raleigh, Fayette, Summers, Greenbrier, Boone and Wyoming counties. "A lot of people are saying it shook their whole house, that it felt like a wave coming through," Fox said. John Price, news director at Oak Hill TV station WOAY-TV, said dozens of calls began coming in shortly after 6:30 PM (EST). John Minsch, a geophysicist with the US Geological Survey, said the disturbance could have been a sonic boom, which he said often is mistaken for an earthquake. "I didn't see a thing that looked like an earthquake," he said. Federal Aviation Administration officials in Charleston said they received no reports of a sonic boom in southern West Virginia. Steve Webber, director of the state's Office of Miners' Health, Safety and Training, said his agency had received no reports of any mine accidents that might account for the noise and shaking. === Didn't see this posted anywhere, so I thought I'd forward it here. -- Pete Porro - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim.Greenen@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Greenen) Subject: VWQUAKES Date: 21 Feb 93 16:31:01 GMT Hi Pete, could someone ask John Minsch how a sonic boom could occur without a auditable sound. Maybe I am mistaken but I thought that when a aircraft breacks the sound barrier there is a very loud noise that is produced. 73's ---Jim--- -- Jim Greenen - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jim.Greenen@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom.Davis@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Tom Davis) Subject: Re: "truth" Date: 22 Feb 93 03:43:00 GMT I understand your position in the classic sense; yet, practical history does not substantiate the concept: Paul Winchell, with little or no scientific training coming up with the first working model of an artificial heart. When his contribution to medical science was first announced the laughter could be heard in every medical school in the nation - "A ventriloquist," they said, "what could he possibly know of anatomy, let alone the heart?" Yet, self studied and with the wisdom to ask what he did not know he made his contribution. Now, there can be no argument that in spite of his contribution he was shunned by the medical community - that his a matter of record. But I always thought that a matter of disgrace, not wisdom. Hereis a final point - while the methodology may certainly be outside the realm of acceptance of a given discipline, the results, of repeatable, should be carefully studied by those who claim to be scientists; remembering, of course, that we have a lot of people traIned as scientists who could no more grow a culture or create a controlled study if their lives depended on it. -- Tom Davis - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Tom.Davis@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sheldon.Wernikoff@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Sheldon Wernikoff) Subject: "truth" Date: 24 Feb 93 03:47:00 GMT TD> I understand your position in the classic sense; yet, practical history TD>does not substantiate the concept: Paul Winchell, with little or no TD>scientific training coming up with the first working model of an artificial TD>heart. When his contribution to medical science was first announced the TD>laughter could be heard in every medical school in the nation - "A TD>ventriloquist," they said, "what could he possibly know of anatomy, let alone TD>the heart?" Yet, self studied and with the wisdom to ask what he did not TD>know he made his contribution. I agree with your argument here Tom - at least to an extent. After all... WE all come from various walks of life, and converge upon this conference to investigate the unknown. How many of us are qualified to even make the judgment of who's qualified? Credentials may be presented as post-graduate degrees, OR they may gleaned experientially. Listen to everyone closely, critically analyze their methods, THEN make a decision. Most importantly... Keep the dialogue flowing. --Sheldon * OLX 2.1 TD * 1:115/887.2 (708)-887-7687 -- Sheldon Wernikoff - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Sheldon.Wernikoff@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don.Allen@p1.f81.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Allen) Subject: Baker Paper Date: 23 Feb 93 02:40:00 GMT > Any chance of posting the Baker paper? If you send me a copy (Via > HUFON) I'll be happy to scan it to a text file. > Regards, > Vince That's a 30 page paper..I do have a 4" hand scanner and considered scanning it in, but would have to scan it sideways and it will be some work involved doing it that way. Pete Theer has been scanning in the Mufon Journals so I know he has a full page scanner, but I suspect he's a bit overloaded for the time being..so I'll send you a copy of the report and let you see what you can do. The letter font is not too bad and is fairly large. It's too darned bad that I can't find a utility to convert a TIFF to ascii, unless I play with the fax part of my modem. That would be the quickest way to do it. Don -- Don Allen - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Don.Allen@p1.f81.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Pete Porro) Subject: Re: "TRUTH" Date: 22 Feb 93 16:17:07 GMT I have to agree with you about Roswell, something happened, but we still don't have any idea what it was. It's great material for the writers, but considering the time span and the recollections of witnesses there are some problems. People are comming forward, in such large numbers, that I wonder how many are wannabee participants and how many actually have some factual evidence to share. I really have a large problem with the numbers and how many people say they saw materials or aliens, and how many people possible could have been there at the time. Didn't they see each other? I have a feeling that the US military knows what it was, and for some reason still isn't talking? Test balloon? Radar Testing? Balloon bomb from Japan? Alien craft? Cookies from the moon? 8*) It reminds me of the JFK materials and evidence. It was to be sealed until who knows when, but finally was realsed because of public demand. Turns out that 1988 conspiracy issues have in many cases been blown out of the water. Mostly I am refering to autopsy reports and problems with bullet angles. The real questions of who, how and why still exist. Roswell could be explained and revealed to the public. (or make that SHOULD) I can't see how some WW II secret needs to be kept at this point in time. National security can't be an issue any longer because technology has changed so much. If "they" do release the facts, according to what they honestly believe to be true, there will be some who don't wish to believe it, but at least we would have an official line, instead of silence and endless conjecture. -- Pete Porro - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Pete Porro) Subject: I GOT FOOLED TOO! Date: 22 Feb 93 16:38:02 GMT I got fooled by some lights myself. It was raining and the way the water (downpour) was reflecting off the lights, made for a very unusual sight. I backed up the car and started laughing at myself. From one particular spot it looked like a bright yellow UFO glowing in the sky, from 15 feet up the road, it was obviously a large light over a parking lot that was partially obstructed, and that gave it the unusual appearance. Second, I did a littl testing on perception last week. Nice clear night and two very bright stars were above the tree line, not extremely high in the sky. One looked as if it was right in line with the road I was driving on. I watched, pretending it was a UFO or "what if" I was someone who thought it was one that I was following. Even though the road is straight, the object (star) appeared to be moving across the sky to the south. I then turned onto a south heading road, and guess what, the star kept up with me on the left. Interesting illusion. The point of this is that the trees and the road make it look as if the star (and it was a star) was a flying object. Better yet when I turned, it followed along beside me. I know it didn't, but the perception if it had been an unusual light, would have been this. I don't know how either of these would come across on video, but it would be worth trying. Right now I'm snowed out of my driveway, but when temps. return to above 50, I'll grab the camera and try it. I also have a desire to head up north for some mystery lights in Watersmeet WI and tape them if I can. It's over an hour from the cottage, so I need a clear night before I'm going for a ride. (ps the cottage is five hours from home to start with) -- Pete Porro - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Cattle Mute Article Date: 21 Feb 93 04:26:01 GMT * Forwarded from "Fidonet UFO Conference" * Originally by Don Allen * Originally to All * Originally dated 20 Feb 1993, 10:49 * Forwarded from "BAMA" * Originally by Jerry Woody * Originally to All * Originally dated 18 Feb 1993, 22:15 Odyssey News Wire-- *** Classification *** ZD? 3 3 Space/Astronomy/UFO/Astral Events CD4 3 3 Monsters/Strange Creatures CD4 3{3 Unknown Happenings/Paranormal/Psychic Events @DY * This Odyssey News Release may be cross posted into other FREE echos. ZDBDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDBD? 3o3 3o3 3o3Cullman Times, February 16th, 1992 3o3 3o3 3o3 3o3CATTLE MUTILATED NEAR ALBERTVILLE 3o3 3o3 3o3 3o3Albertville, AL - Police in northeast Alabama are urging 3o3 3o3cattle owners to keep a close watch on their herds while 3o3 3o3officers investigate reports of mutilations. 3o3 3o3 A string of mutilations has been reported on Sand 3o3 3o3Mountain and Lookout Mountain in the past few months. 3o3 3o3 Albertville Police Chief Randy Amos said none of the3o3 3o3incidents has been solved and leads are scarce. 3o3 3o3 Frank Wood, the Marshall County farm agent, said 3o3 3o3there have been about a dozen mutilation cases in that 3o3 3o3county since the fall. The animals are too big to have been3o3 3o3killed by coyotes, and the animals didn't appear to have 3o3 3o3been killed for food since most of the edible parts were 3o3 3o3left behind. 3o3 3o3 "They had organs removed and the blood drained," he 3o3 3o3said. 3o3 3o3 One of the cattle owners who suffered a lost was 3o3 3o3Albertville Chief of Detectives Tommy Cole, who has been a 3o3 3o3leader of the probe. 3o3 3o3 In adjoining DeKalb County, Sheriff Harold Richards 3o3 3o3said some of the unusual activity taking place quieted down.3o3 3o3It involved not only mutilated cattle, but also reports of 3o3 3o3UFOs. 3o3 3o3 "We think in some cases it may be that a cow died 3o3 3o3and some wild animals dragged it off," he said. "We had one3o3 3o3report that a horse, a goat and two cows had been 3o3 3o3mutilated." 3o3 3o3 3o3 3o3 3o3 3o3 3o3 3o3 3o3 3o3 3o3 @DADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDADY -- Michael Corbin - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Cattle Mute Update Date: 21 Feb 93 04:28:02 GMT * Forwarded from "Fidonet UFO Conference" * Originally by Don Allen * Originally to All * Originally dated 20 Feb 1993, 10:52 * Forwarded from "BAMA" * Originally by Jerry Woody * Originally to **all * Originally dated 16 Feb 1993, 23:19 I had planned to get the article scanned tonight but some 'hot' info just came in. I'll try to scan and post the mute article tomorrow. Tonight on WVTM-TV channel 13 out of Birmingham Alabama the Cattle mute story was run again. Additional information is that 31 cows have now been mutilated in the last few months. The Sheriffs' dept. and Marshall county Ranchers also report strange, black helicopters in the area at the time of some of the cattle mutilations. Odyssey HQ received videotape of some of the mutilations late this afternoon from some of our researchers in NE Alabama. In it was 5 mutilated cows. I must admit, the first one at first glance did not look like a 'classic' mute case. The hind quarters were gone but it appeared bloody and ragged. However, it is -so- different from the others I entertain the thought that dogs or other predators -could- have gotten ahold of it after it had died and been mutilated. The other four on the video was -classic- mutilations. All exhibited no blood, surgical procedure cuts and organs 'classically' gone. The second cow, at least from the video was the most... well, terrifying. A huge O was cut from the cow's abdomen starting from below the rib cage going down into the anal area. Inside this huge cut in the skin was... I don't know how to explain it but it looked like someone had 'steam stripped' the inside of the cow. There was -no- meat or fat on the bones and the bones were pearly white. What few intestines, etc. left within the cow was also 'white' apparently totally devoid of blood. The next 3 pictures was those of the classic cookie cutter type. Late reports are that Dekalb and Marshall county Alabama Sheriffs' depts. still have -no- leads on these mutes even tho 31 have now been committed and has occured over a period of months in while not thickly populated, but medium populated regions. Police depts. will try, evidently in vain, to pursue the only lead they have of mysterious black helicopters in the area during the time of the mutes and the UFOs sighted over DeKalb county. More to come..... Jerry Woody Odyssey Administrator -- Michael Corbin - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: New Classification and Rating System Date: 24 Feb 93 11:07:03 GMT VALLEE/MICAP/PARANET CLASSIFICATION AND RATING SYSTEM In order to encompass the full range of phenomena one finds in the modern literature, it is important to acknowledge that UFOs are related in significant ways to other anomalies. It is the rule, rather than the exception, to find significant UFO sightings preceded or followed by other anomalies, notably the poltergeist variety. The following classification scheme, created by Dr. Jacques Vallee, is being adopted by ParaNet and MICAP. AN Rating - ANOMALY - These do not specifically deal with UFO Reports: AN1 - are anomalies that do not have lasting physical effects, such as amorphous lights or unexplained explosions. AN2 - are anomalies with lasting physical effects, such as some poltergeist phenomena, apports (materialized objects), and areas of flattened grass. AN3 - are anomalies with associated entities. This class could include reports of ghosts, yetis, and other instances of cryptozoology as well as elves and spirits. AN4 - are those anomalous reports in which witnesses experienced personal interaction with entities in the reality of the entities themselves. They include near-death experiences, religious miracles and visions, and many cases of out-of-body experiences. AN5 - are those anomalous reports of injuries or deaths, such as spontaneous combustion or unexplained wounds. Also, cases of permanent healing often described in the literature of the paranormal. MA Rating - MANEUVER - are best classified according to the apparent behavior of the object rather than the circumstances independent of it, such as daylight or night, or radar rather than visual observation: MA1 - gathers those UFO observations that involve an object with a discontinuous trajectory (such as drop, a maneuver, or a loop). MA2 - includes those cases that give rise to physical effects in addition to a discontinuous trajectory. MA3 - contains the cases of objects with discontinuous trajectories when beings are observed on board. Some of the "airship" cases of the late nineteenth century were in this category, as well as the famous 1959 sighting by Father Gill of New Guinea. MA4 - covers instances of maneuvers accompanied by a sense of transformation of reality for the percipient. MA5 - is a maneuver as a result of which the witnesses suffer permanent injury or death. FB Rating - FLY-BY: FB1 - is a simple sighting of a UFO "flying by" in the sky, the category most frequently reported. FB2 - is a flyby accompanied by physical evidence. FB3 - is a flyby of an object accompanied by the observation of beings on board. Although rare, this type of observation is reported occasionally. FB4 - is a flyby where the witness experienced a transformation of his or her reality into the object or its occupants. FB5 - would be a flyby as a result of which the witnesses would suffer permanent injuries, as in the celebrated Cash-Landrum case in Texas, which can be found in the literature. In that case, two women and a boy were hurt by the effects of a bright object that flew above them without landing or stopping. CE Rating - CLOSE ENCOUNTERS: CE1 - is a report where the object comes within 500 feet of the observer, but no interaction is involved with the observer or the environment. CE2 - is a report similar to CE1, however it leaves a physical record of its visit in the form of landing traces. CE3 - is a report where one or more animated entities are present in proximity to an UFO. The term "animate" is not used to allow for the possibility of robots or something other than "flesh and blood." CE4 - is a report that encompasses the "abduction" report, where the witnesses report extensive contact and physical interaction with the entities inside their craft. CE5 - is a report that involves CE4, with additional permanent physiological injuries, effects or subsequent death. THE SVP CREDIBILITY RATING NO classification system is complete without a way of assigning credibility or "weight" to an observation. Using a three digit code to indicate the weight of a UFO case, it can be determined how credible the report is using source reliability, site visit and possible explanations. first digit: source reliability (S): 0 Unknown source or unreliable source 1 Report attributed to a known source of uncalibrated reliability 2 Reliable source, secondhand 3 Reliable source, firsthand 4 Firsthand personal interview with the witness by a source of proven reliability second digit: site visit (V): 0 No site visit, or answer unknown 1 Site visit by a casual person not familiar with such phenomena 2 Site visit by persons familiar with such phenomena 3 Site visit by a reliable investigator with some experience 4 Site visit by a skilled analyst third digit: possible explanations (P): 0 Data consistent with one or more natural causes 1 Natural explanation requires only slight modification of the data 2 Natural explanation requires gross alteration of one parameter 3 Natural explanation requires gross alteration of several parameters 4 No natural explanation possible, given the evidence A rating of 222 or better (meaning that each of the three digits is two or higher), indicates the events reported through a reliable source in which a site visit has been made and where a natural explanation would require the gross alteration of at least one parameter. -- Michael Corbin - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG ******************************************************************************* Submissions infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com Administrative requests infopara-request@scicom.alphacdc.com FTP archive grind.isca.uiowa.edu:/info/paranet/infopara Permission to distribute Michael.Corbin@paranet.org Private mail to Paranet/Fidonet users firstname.lastname@paranet.org UUCP gateway {ncar,isis,csn}!scicom *********************End**of**the**InfoPara**Newsletter************************