Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 629 Monday, March 8th 1993 (C) Copyright 1993 Paranet Information Service. All Rights Reserved. Today's Topics: The Taos Hum Questions From Alt.alien.visitors Re: "truth" Paranet Newsletter 626 Hackers & Ufos - 1/3 File 4--"Hackers" take on the UFOs? Hackers & Ufos - 2/3 Hackers & Ufos - 3/3 Fire in the Sky Paranet Newsletter 626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: luna.ngdc.noaa.gov!jai Subject: The Taos Hum Date: 1 Mar 93 19:32:00 GMT From: jai@luna.ngdc.noaa.gov (Joy A. Ikelman) Recent article in the Denver Post. Anyone familiar with this one? Denver Post, February 28, 1993 TAOS HUM STIRRING UP A RUCKUS: MYSTERIOUS NOISE SPURS INQUIRY TO HOUSE PANEL by Kit Miniclier Denver Post Staff Writer Once dismissed as pure humbug by skeptics, the 'Taos Hum' now has the attention of the U.S. House Intelligence Committee. In addition, a congressman who suspects that the military is responsible for the persistent noise has asked Defense Secretary Les Aspin to turn down the volume. The mysterious, low-frequency hum has plagued people in Taos, NM for two years. Others, including U.S. Rep. Bill Richardson, D-N.M., have visited Taos often and never heard the noise nor felt the vibrations that come with it. 'But the congressman is convinced people are feeling and hearing something, and (he) feels the hum is a serious issue which must be addressed,' said Richardson's spokesman, Stu Nagurka. MESSAGE FROM SPACE? Jocular skeptics initially had speculated that the hum might be a message from space aliens; communications by the spirits of ancient inhabitants of Taos Pueblo; the generator of the Taos Country Club; or secret underground testing at Los Alamos National Laboratory, 60 miles away. 'We were accused from the beginning of trying to perpetuate a hoax,' said Bob Saltzman, who, with his wife, Catanya, has led an 18- month campaign to identify the hum and its source. After they appealed to Richardson for help, the congressman held a town meeting in Taos last weekend and said he would ask the intelligence committee to investigate. Richardson, chief deputy majority whip and a member of the House Intelligence Committee and the House Science, Space and Technology Committee, appealed to Aspin a few days ago. 'I have reason to believe the Department of Defense may be responsible for a mystery sound plaguing the residents of Taos, NM, and other areas of New Mexico...Should a Department of Defense project be the cause of this noise, please consider this letter as a formal request to make the necessary changes so the noise no longer troubles the citizens...' He suspects a Kirtland Air Force Base radar project, low-flying airborne laser laboratory, or low-flying helicopters. A federal research scientist has identified the Taos hum as a strong signal at frequencies of 12 to 18 hertz, which is below most human hearing. It is 'a low, throbbing, grinding sound, accompanied by pulses and high static ringing,' Richardson told Aspin. 'For some, the sound has become so deafening that they have moved out of the area.' COUPLE FORCED OUT Saltzman, a 47-year old photographer, said he and his wife, 44, a dancer and choreographer, left Taos three weeks ago and rented a condo in Hilton Head, SC, 'to get away from the sound so we can think.' 'I demand that the Department of Defense stop this abomination immediately,' Saltzman said. 'And I want to put them on notice that I intend to sue them for damages. It will be a class-action suit involving everyone else who is hurt by this exposure to sound, including unborn fetuses whom the EPA says may be at risk from long- term exposure to infra-sound.' U.S. Rep. Steve Schiff, R-NM, a member of the House Government Operations Committee, is conducting his own investigation with officials at Kirtland, Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque and Los Alamos National Laboratory. --end of article-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ * Joy Ikelman | 'If you want to win anything--a race, jai@luna.ngdc.noaa.gov | your self, your life--you have to go a | little beserk.' (George Sheehan) * ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Questions From Alt.alien.visitors Date: 2 Mar 93 06:04:03 GMT > From: violet.berkeley.edu!chalmers > Date: 24 Feb 93 20:31:36 GMT > Message-ID: <34822@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM> > Newsgroups: info.paranet > From: chalmers@violet.berkeley.edu (John H. Chalmers Jr.) Hello John! > Michael Corbin: > Re your post from Bill Peterson, originally from alt.alien.visitors: > There are two points on which I have questions or comments: 1). > What are the criminal penalties for pilots discussing UFO sightings > with the press? Do they apply only to military and commercial pilots > or do they include private pilots as well. As I recall, it is a military crime to discuss a UFO sighting outside of your commanding officer and relevant personnel until you are fully debriefed and are allowed to speak about it, if ever. However, I am not entirely certain about this. I do not believe that this policy extends beyond military personnel, however commercial pilots have found strong opposition by their employers for reporting UFOs. Some have lost their jobs. > 2). While many scientists > still think there must be life elsewhere in space, I have sensed a > growing pessimism about this and a willingness to admit the > possibility that the earth may be unique. The argument, such as it is, > concerns the number of necessary coincidences that made the earth > habitable, allowed life to begin, and then survive long enough for > intelligence to evolve. I don't find it convincing myself; for > one thing, life doesn't have to be humanoid or intelligent to exist. > Also, we really don't know enough about the origin of planetary > systems, early solar system and planetary formation, primitive > earth chemistry, etc. to be too dogmatic about what is and is > not a rare event. However, there is a feeling that life might > be less common than was thought a few years ago. On the other > hand, protoplanetary disks seem commoner than imagined too. Do you have any papers handy regarding this subject that discuss these points? Mike -- Michael Corbin - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom.Davis@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Tom Davis) Subject: Re: "truth" Date: 1 Mar 93 05:36:00 GMT I didn't realize you were so afraid. I will withdraw from the UFO Conference to allow you more direct control. -- Tom Davis - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Tom.Davis@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Paranet Newsletter 626 Date: 2 Mar 93 06:14:04 GMT > From: 86FTSCCQ@strathost.stratcom.af.mil ('86FTSCCQ') > Date: 27 Feb 93 00:54:22 GMT > Message-ID: <34907@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM> > Newsgroups: info.paranet Greetings David! Haven't seen you around for a while. > Need info from anyone on a series of sightings that occurred in > April 1975 in the state of North Carolina. > A man from New York sent me a newspaper clipping from 1975 that > described a triangle craft. The gentleman is asking if this > was one of our test aircraft and I would like to know if there is > any other information in the media on this event. > Please post here or Email to my address. I would be curious to know what makes this triangle-shaped aircraft so special? These craft have been making numerous appearances all over the world lately. Perhaps if you could be more specific as to location in North Carolina, we might be able to research it for you. Take care. Mike -- Michael Corbin - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike.Keithly@p0.f608.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Mike Keithly) Subject: Hackers & Ufos - 1/3 Date: 2 Mar 93 22:12:02 GMT * Forwarded from "FidoNet UFO Echo" * Originally by Jim Dritsas * Originally to All * Originally dated 1 Mar 1993, 1:21 The following is extracted from the "Computer Underground Digest" Volume 5 Issue 13. The article is titled "Hackers take on the UFOs?". You might find it interesting. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 01:15:50 PST From: Ann_Dromeda@orion.nebula.com Subject: File 4--"Hackers" take on the UFOs? ((MODERATORS' COMMENT: We've read a bit of discussion about UFOs, "hackers," and guerilla investigators. Whether myth or reality, the discussions represent a segment of computer culture that others might find interesting. So, we run the following as a reflection of one segment of the culture that, even if myth, raises that age-old question: Is it live, or is it memorex?)). Rumors have begun to surface about a group of hackers who were involved in a project to uncover information regarding the existence of UFOs. The most public example pertaining to this alleged project was seen on Dateline NBC on the screen of the mystery hacker "Quentin." The story goes that this group of individuals decided to put their skills to work on a project that, if successful, would legitimize the hacking process by uncovering information on what has been called the greatest cover-up in the history of the world. Milnet TAC ID cards were obtained through military officials sympathetic to the cause. Several sites and networks were targeted that had in the past been linked to UFO activity. These were sites like the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Sandia Labs, TRW Space Research, American Institute of Physics, and various other educational, government and military sites. The rumors also emphasize that several sites had what these individuals called "particularly heavy security." Within several seconds after connection had been established, system administrators of sites used in this project were contacted. Further rumors state that there was information regarding a propulsion system designed utilizing what is termed "corona discharge" being analyzed at one site. The most sinister of all rumors states that one particular participant who was allegedly deeply immersed in TRWs internal network has not been heard from since uncovering data regarding a saucer being housed at one of their Southern California installations. Believe what you will about the reality of this project. Much will be dismissed as hacker lore, but within the core of every rumor lies a grain of truth. Are we being lied to? Why is this information still classified by the NSA? What are they hiding from us behind a maze of security? Will we continue to stand idly by and let an uncaring and deliberately evasive government shield us from what may be the most important, and potential dangerous news to ever surface? Information wants to be free, and only a concerted group effort can make this happen. How much do you really want to know about what is really going on? What follows is information that has been released regarding this project... ++++++++++++++++++++++++ PROJECT ALF-1 A Planetary Effort TOP SECRET TOP SECRET TOP SECRET TOP SECRET TOP SECRET TOP SECRET These are the raw data. Where comments are appropriate, they will be included. The data will be grouped together with dates, names etc. to make correlations easier. There are countless references to the aliens, their down space craft and what the Government is doing with them. If, as is supposed, the research on the craft and the 'ufonauts' continues today, then undoubtedly there are computer records, somewhere. I. Searching the Skies; Tripping the Electronic Fence around the USA. US Space Command Space Surveillance Center, Cheyenne Mountain, Colorado Springs, Box Nine (Electronic Surveillance Room) (This is where they search for and track UFO activity.) U.S. Naval Space Surveillance System, Dahlgreen, Virginia, (Main computer), Lake Kickapoo, Texas (listening post): Search for 'Flash Traffic' Commander Sheila Mondran CINC-NORAD Space Detection and Tracking System Malabar, Florida 'Teal Amber' search National Military Command Center - Pentagon (These are the areas where UFO activity is tracked. There is a radar shield around the country that is 'tripped' by UFO's. All tracking and F14 scrambling is done through this system.) II. The Second Cover Up Defense Intelligence Agency Directorate for Management and Operations Project Aquarius (in conjunction with SRI) Colonel Harold E. Phillips, Army (where/what Feb. 1987) UFO Working Group, (formed Dec 1987) Major General James Pfautz, USAF, Ret. (March 87) US Army experiments -(Monroe Institute, Faber, VA) Major General Albert Stubblebine Capt. Guy Kirkwood, (thousands of feet of film of UFO's catalogued and on record somewhere.) The UFO Working Group was formed because one arm of the Govt doesn't know what the other is doing.) III. National Security NSA NAtional Security Agency, Dundee Society (Super secret elite who have worked on UFO's.) NSA - Research and Engineering Division NSA - Intercept Equipment Division Kirtland Force Base, Office of Special Investigations, Project Beta. 1979-83-? (Sandia Labs are here.) Paul Bennewitz Project Blue Project Blue Book (NSA computers do analysis for Pentagon.) IV. More Secret Players NASA, Fort Irwin, Barstow, CA NASA Ames Research Center, Moffet Field Naval Base SETI State Dept. Office of Advanced Technology Any Astronauts from Mercury, Gemini and Apollo CIA - Office of Scientific Investigation CIA - Domestic Collection Division (NASA has known about UFO's since the astronauts saw and photoed them. Records somewhere.) V. Dealing with the Secret MJ-12 (1952) Majectic 12 Operation Majestic 12 MAJIC-12 Admiral Roscoe H. Hillenkoetter Dr. Vannevar Bush Dr. Detlev Bronk Dr. Jerome Hunsaker Dr. Donald Menzel Dr. Lloyd Berkner General Robt. Montague Sidney Souers Gordon Gray General Hoyt Vandenberg Sect State James Forrestal General Nathan Twining Pres. Truman Pres. Eisenhower (One of the biggest secrets ever.) Nevada Desert, Area 51, S4 (houses UFO's) (Robert Lazar talked!) 9 space ships on storage. Propulsion by corona discharge. (Area 51 is the most protected base on the planet.) VI. ROSWELL, NM Crashes Mac Brazel (farmer) Major Jesse A. Marcel 509th. Bomber Group Lewis Rickett, CIC Officer Colonel William Blanchard Gerald Anderson, witness to crash and aliens Wright Patterson Air Force Base, (parts lists of UFO's catalogued; autopsies on record) (Bodies in underground facility) Foreign Technology Building USAAF (United States Army Air Force reports: "Early Automation" Muroc, CA (Base with UFO's for study) (1 saucer with 4 aliens. They were transported to Wright and then saved, catalogued and autopsied.) (Continued in next message...) -- Mike Keithly - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Mike.Keithly@p0.f608.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike.Keithly@p0.f608.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Mike Keithly) Subject: Hackers & Ufos - 2/3 Date: 2 Mar 93 22:12:03 GMT * Forwarded from "FidoNet UFO Echo" * Originally by Jim Dritsas * Originally to All * Originally dated 1 Mar 1993, 1:11 (...Continued from previous message) VII. THOSE ON GOVT SHIT LIST (People who have gotten close.) Robert Lazar Major Donald Keyhoe William Moore Stanton Friedman Jaime Shandera Whitley Streiber Timothy Goode, UK Other UFO Crashes Del Rio, TX 12/50, Colonel Robert Willingham Las Vegas, 4/18/62 Kecksburg, PA 12/9/65 VIII. International Belgian Air Force. (They are going public and have records. Press conference held 7/12/91.) Australian Air Force UK; GCHQ British Air Force Belgium: NATO Radar Stations IX. UFO Civilian Groups. (What do they really know?) NICAP, National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena (private company.) APRO, Tucson, AZ (Aerial Phenomena Research Organization, private company.) MUFON Mutual UFO Network X. GENERAL Kenneth Arnold, June 24, 1947 Cattle and Sheep Mutilations General and Pres. Eisenhower, (private files and library) President Truman Wright Field or Wright Patterson Air Force Base, Dayton, OH, (Air Force Foreign Technology Division) USAF Project Saint USAF Project Gemini Project Moon Dust Project Sign Project Grudge General Hoyt Vandenberg (1940-1960) Air Force Regulation 200-2 (8/12/54) Holloman AFB, NM Roswell, NM July 7, 1947 XI. Possible Searches Presidential Libraries Old USAAF, (United States Army Air Force) NASA Astronaut Frank Borman, Gemini 7, pictures of UFO Neil Armstrong, Apollo 11, saw UFO's on moon. Colonel Gordon Cooper saw a bunch of them James McDivitt, 6/66 United Nations NATO; General Lionel Max Chassin, French Air Force Star Wars, United Kingdom, 23 scientists killed in 6 years. Gulf Breeze, FL Additional UFO records at NSA, CIA, DIA, FBI Good Searching. +++++++++++++++++ Project ->Green Cheese<- Data Base ++++++++++++++++++ Holloman AFB Location: New Mexico. Preconceived landing 15 years ago. DDN Locations: +++++++ NET : 132.5.0.0 : HOLLOMAN : GATEWAY : 26.9.0.74, 132.5.0.1 : HOLLOMAN-GW.AF.MIL : CISCO-MGS :: EGP,IP/GW : GATEWAY : 26.9.0.74, 132.5.0.1 : HOLLOMAN-GW.AF.MIL : CISCO-MGS :: EGP,IP/GW : HOST : 26.10.0.74 : HOLLOMAN-TG.AF.MIL : VAX-8650 : VMS : TCP/FTP,TCP/TELNET,TCP SMTP : HOST : 26.6.0.74 : HOLLOMAN-AM1.AF.MIL : WANG-VS100 : VSOS : TCP/TELNET,TCP/FTP, TCP/SMTP : Host: DDNVAX2.6585TG.AF.MIL 156.6.1.2 +++++++++++++++++++++++ Kirtland Air Force Base Office Of Special Investigations. Sandia Labs are here. Also part of NSA Intercept Equipment Division. Key Words/names: ++++++++ Sandia Labs Project Beta (1979-83-?) Paul Bennewitz Project Blue Project Blue Book DDN Locations: +++++++ NET : 131.23.0.0 : KIRTLAND-NET : NET : 132.62.0.0 : KIRTLAND2 : GATEWAY : 26.17.0.48, 131.23.0.1 : KIRTLAND2-GW.AF.MIL,KIRTLAND-GW.AF.MIL : CISCO-MGS : UNIX : IP/GW,EGP : GATEWAY : 26.18.0.87, 132.62.0.1 : KIRTLAND1-GW.AF.MIL,KIRTLAND1606ABW-GW.AF.MIL : CISCO-MGS : : EGP,IP/GW : HOST : 26.0.0.48 : KIRTLAND.MT.DDN.MIL : C/30 : TAC : TCP,ICMP : HOST : 26.0.0.87 : KIRTLAND2.MT.DDN.MIL : C/30 : TAC : TCP,ICMP : HOST : 26.6.0.87 : KIRTLAND-AM1.AF.MIL : WANG-VS300 : VS :: +++++++++++++++++++++++ NASA What can I say about NASA that you couldn't guess for yourself.... (Except that the following sights are SPECIFIC NASA sights, not just randomly suspected sights). DDN locations: +++++++ Fort Irwin, Barstow, CA: +++++++++ NET : 134.66.0.0 : IRWIN : NET : 144.146.0.0 : FTIRWIN1 : NET : 144.147.0.0 : FTIRWIN2 : GATEWAY : 26.24.0.85, 26.7.0.230, 144.146.0.1, 144.147.0.0 : FTIRWIN-GW1.ARMY.MIL : CISCO-GATEWAY : CISCO : IP/GW,EGP : HOST : 26.14.0.39 : IRWIN-ASBN.ARMY.MIL : NCR-COMTEN-3650 : COS2 :: HOST : 26.13.0.85 : FTIRWIN-AMEDD.ARMY.MIL : ATT-3B2-600G : UNIX : TCP/FTP,TCP/SMTP,TCP/TELNET : HOST : 26.14.0.85 : FTIRWIN-IGNET.ARMY.MIL : DATAPOINT-8605 : RMS :: HOST : 26.15.0.85 : IRWIN-EMH1.ARMY.MIL,FTIRWIN-EMH1.ARMY.MIL : SPERRY-5000 : UNIX : TCP/FTP,TCP/SMTP,TCP/TELNET : Moffet Field Naval Base (Ames Research Center): +++++++++++++++++++++ GATEWAY : 26.20.0.16, 192.52.195.1 : MOFFETT-FLD-MB.DDN.MIL,AMES-MB.DDN.MIL : C/70 : CHRYSALIS : IP/GW,EGP : HOST : 26.0.0.16 : MOFFETT.MT.DDN.MIL : C/30 : TAC : TCP,ICMP : +++++++++++++++++++++++ Pentagon (National Military Command Center) One of many places in charge of tracking UFO activity. (Continued in Next Message...) -- Mike Keithly - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Mike.Keithly@p0.f608.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike.Keithly@p0.f608.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Mike Keithly) Subject: Hackers & Ufos - 3/3 Date: 2 Mar 93 22:13:04 GMT * Forwarded from "FidoNet UFO Echo" * Originally by Jim Dritsas * Originally to All * Originally dated 1 Mar 1993, 1:16 (...Continued from Previous Message) Possible DDN sights: +++++++ GATEWAY : 26.9.0.26, 134.205.123.140 : PENTAGON-GW.HQ.AF.MIL : CISCO-AGS : : EGP,IP/GW : GATEWAY : 26.25.0.26, 131.8.0.1 : PENTAGON-GW.AF.MIL,HQUSAFNET-GW.AF.MIL : CISCO-MGS :: IP/GW,EGP : GATEWAY : 26.10.0.76, 192.31.75.235 : PENTAGON-BCN-GW.ARMY.MIL : SUN-360 : UNIX : IP/GW,EGP : GATEWAY : 26.26.0.247, 192.31.75.1 : PENTAGON-GW.ARMY.MIL : SUN-3/160 : UNIX : EGP,IP/GW : GATEWAY : 26.31.0.247, 26.16.0.26, 141.116.0.1 : PENTAGON-GW1.ARMY.MIL : CISCO : CISCO : IP/GW,EGP : HOST : 26.0.0.26 : PENTAGON.MT.DDN.MIL : C/30 : TAC : TCP,ICMP : HOST : 26.24.0.26 : OPSNET-PENTAGON.AF.MIL : VAX-8500 : VMS : TCP/TELNET,TCP/FTP,TCP/SMTP : HOST : 26.10.0.76, 192.31.75.235 : PENTAGON-BCN.ARMY.MIL : SUN-360 : UNIX : TCP/FTP,TCP/SMTP,TCP/TELNET : HOST : 26.0.0.247 : PENTAGON2.MT.DDN.MIL : C/30 : TAC : TCP,ICMP : HOST : 26.7.0.247 : PENTAGON-AMSNET.ARMY.MIL : AMDAHL : MVS : TCP/TELNET,TCP/FTP : HOST : 26.14.0.247 : NSSC-PENTAGON.NAVY.MIL : ALTOS-3068A : UNIX : TCP/FTP,TCP/TELNET,TCP/SMTP : HOST : 26.18.0.247 : PENTAGON-EMH4.ARMY.MIL : SPERRY-5000/80 : UNIX : TCP/TELNET,TCP/FTP,TCP/SMTP : HOST : 26.26.0.247, 192.31.75.1 : PENTAGON-AI.ARMY.MIL : SUN-3/160 : UNIX : TCP/TELNET,TCP/FTP,TCP/SMTP,TCP/FINGER : +++++++++++++++++++++++ Raddaman Location of infamous building 18a. Suspected saucers and others? DDN location, yet unknown. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ SECI ? DDN Locations: +++++++ NET : 192.108.216.0 : ARC-SETI-NET : ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Utah Locations: GATEWAY : 26.18.0.20, 131.27.0.1 : HILL-GW.AF.MIL,HILLAFBNET-GW.AF.MIL : CISCO-MGS :: IP/GW,EGP : GATEWAY : 26.18.0.20, 131.27.0.1 : HILL-GW.AF.MIL,HILLAFBNET-GW.AF.MIL : CISCO-MGS :: IP/GW,EGP : HOST : 26.5.0.20 : HILL.MT.DDN.MIL : C/30 : TAC : TCP,ICMP : HOST : 26.0.0.99 : HILL2.MT.DDN.MIL : C/30 : TAC : TCP,ICMP : HOST : 26.12.0.99 : HILL-AM1.AF.MIL : WANG-VS100 : VS : TCP/TELNET,TCP/FTP,TCP/SMTP : ++++++++++++++++++++++++ Wright Patterson AFB Catalogued UFO parts list. Autopsies on record. Bodies located in underground facility of Foreign Technology Building. DDN Locations: +++++++ HOST : 26.0.0.47 : WRIGHTPAT.MT.DDN.MIL : C/30 : TAC : TCP,ICMP : HOST : 26.8.0.123 : WRIGHTPAT2.MT.DDN.MIL : C/30 : TAC : TCP,ICMP : HOST : 26.0.0.124 : WRIGHTPAT3.MT.DDN.MIL : C/30 : TAC : TCP,ICMP : HOST : 26.3.0.170 : WAINWRIGHT-IGNET.ARMY.MIL : CONVERGENT-TECH-CN-100 : CTOS :: HOST : 26.0.0.176 : WRIGHTPAT4.MT.DDN.MIL : C/30 : TAC : TCP,ICMP : ++++++++++++++++++++++++ Nevada: NET : 131.216.0.0 : NEVADA : ++++++++++++++++++++++++ Random Suspected Nets: WIN: Top Secret Network. All coordinator's have last name Win. NET : 141.8.0.0 : DFN-WIN8 : NET : 141.9.0.0 : DFN-WIN9 : NET : 141.10.0.0 : DFN-WIN10 : NET : 141.15.0.0 : DFN-WIN15 : NET : 141.25.0.0 : DFN-WIN25 : NET : 141.26.0.0 : DFN-WIN26 : NET : 141.28.0.0 : DFN-WIN28 : NET : 141.57.0.0 : DFN-WIN57 : NET : 141.58.0.0 : DFN-WIN58 : NET : 141.59.0.0 : DFN-WIN59 : NET : 141.60.0.0 : DFN-WIN60 : NET : 141.61.0.0 : DFN-WIN61 : NET : 141.62.0.0 : DFN-WIN62 : NET : 141.63.0.0 : DFN-WIN63 : NET : 141.64.0.0 : DFN-WIN64 : NET : 141.65.0.0 : DFN-WIN65 : NET : 141.66.0.0 : DFN-WIN66 : NET : 141.67.0.0 : DFN-WIN67 : NET : 141.68.0.0 : DFN-WIN68 : NET : 141.69.0.0 : DFN-WIN69 : NET : 141.70.0.0 : DFN-WIN70 : NET : 141.71.0.0 : DFN-WIN71 : NET : 141.72.0.0 : DFN-WIN72 : NET : 141.73.0.0 : DFN-WIN73 : NET : 141.74.0.0 : DFN-WIN74 : NET : 141.75.0.0 : DFN-WIN75 : NET : 141.76.0.0 : DFN-WIN76 : NET : 141.77.0.0 : DFN-WIN77 : NET : 141.78.0.0 : DFN-WIN78 : NET : 141.79.0.0 : DFN-WIN79 : NET : 141.80.0.0 : DFN-WIN80 : NET : 141.81.0.0 : DFN-WIN81 : NET : 141.82.0.0 : DFN-WIN82 : NET : 141.83.0.0 : DFN-WIN83 : NET : 141.84.0.0 : DFN-WIN84 : NET : 141.85.0.0 : DFN-WIN85 : NET : 141.86.0.0 : DFN-WIN86 : NET : 141.87.0.0 : DFN-WIN87 : NET : 141.88.0.0 : DFN-WIN88 : NET : 141.89.0.0 : DFN-WIN89 : NET : 141.90.0.0 : DFN-WIN90 : NET : 141.91.0.0 : DFN-WIN91 : NET : 141.92.0.0 : DFN-WIN92 : NET : 141.93.0.0 : DFN-WIN93 : NET : 141.94.0.0 : DFN-WIN94 : NET : 141.95.0.0 : DFN-WIN95 : NET : 141.96.0.0 : DFN-WIN96 : NET : 141.97.0.0 : DFN-WIN97 : NET : 141.98.0.0 : DFN-WIN98 : NET : 141.99.0.0 : DFN-WIN99 : NET : 188.1.0.0 : WIN-IP : NET : 192.80.90.0 : WINDATA : +++++++++++++++ Scinet: Sensitive Compartmented Information Network NET : 192.12.188.0 : BU-SCINET : +++++++++++++++ Disnet: Defense Integrated Secure Network. Composed of SCINET, WINCS ([World Wide Military and Command Control System] Intercomputer Network Communication Subsystem), and Secretnet(WIN). NET : 22.0.0.0 : DISNET : ------------------------------ End of Computer Underground Digest #5.13 ************************************ -- Mike Keithly - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Mike.Keithly@p0.f608.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Subject: Fire in the Sky Date: 3 Mar 93 06:08:05 GMT On March 12th, your perception of reality will be substantially changed. You will be transported back to November 5, 1975, when a group of loggers are preparing to go home after a day of work in a Northeastern Arizona forest. What should have been any ordinary day becomes an historical event that would lead to charges of murder, accusations of a hoax, and the ultimate in devastation of personal lives over a story so incredible no one would believe any part of it. On March 12th, Paramount Pictures and Joe Wizan/Todd Black Productions will present "Fire in the Sky," a true story based on the Travis Walton experience, whose abduction by a UFO is one of the best-documented cases in history. The scene is set. As the men travel through the forest over rough roads, miles from civilization, they come upon a strange and unusually bright light hovering in the sky. Travis Walton, being a fearless and perilously curious person, jumps from the truck to approach the object as his friends warn him to return to safety. Suddenly, there is a bright flash of light and Travis is knocked to the ground by a mysterious force of energy. In a panic, his friends leave the scene only to return moments later to find Walton gone without a trace. For five days, his friends are accused of murder while an intense manhunt ensues attempting to find a trace of Walton. On the fifth day, Walton is returned dazed and disoriented only to find that things in the small town of Snowflake, Arizona have changed forever, and he is the cause of it. Telling an incredible story of alien interaction, Walton faces contempt and ridicule that almost destroys his life. Seventeen years later, controversy still surrounds the event, but each of the men involved in that fateful day still stand firm on their stories. "Fire in the Sky" is not a UFO movie. "This is a story that speaks to human character and behavior --- about our inclination to presume the worst in someone before considering ideas that challenge our own skepticism," comments producer Joe Wizan. Screenwriter Tracy Torme' identifies the film as a study of "how a single event can alter your life forever just by (your) being unlucky enough to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. 'Fire in the Sky' is also about friendship and betrayal --- and forgiveness." "Fire in the Sky" stars D.B. Sweeney ("The Cutting Edge"), Robert Patrick ("Terminator II: Judgment Day"), Craig Sheffer ("A River Runs Through It"), Peter Berg ("Late for Dinner"), and Academy Award nominee James Garner. Directed by Robert Lieberman. Wolfgang Glattes is the executive producer and Tracy Torme' & Robert Strauss and Nilo Rodis-Jamero are the co-producers of the presentation. A must see for everyone! ParaNet will carry a review of the presentation. -- Michael Corbin - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don.Allen@p1.f81.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Allen) Subject: Paranet Newsletter 626 Date: 1 Mar 93 06:01:01 GMT > From: 86FTSCCQ@strathost.stratcom.af.mil ('86FTSCCQ') > Date: 27 Feb 93 00:54:22 GMT > Message-ID: <34907@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM> > Newsgroups: info.paranet > Need info from anyone on a series of sightings that occurred in > April 1975 in the state of North Carolina. > A man from New York sent me a newspaper clipping from 1975 that > described a triangle craft. The gentleman is asking if this > was one of our test aircraft and I would like to know if there is > any other information in the media on this event. > Please post here or Email to my address. > Thanks, > Capt David Winters > 412TW > Edwards AFB,CA Hello Capt Winters, I just grepped through all the MUFON North Carolina sightings reports and did not find any reports for that specific time period. Most of the reports were either in the 50's or late 88-89 period with quite a few more fairly recent ones. Most of the reports described the shapes as either cigar, a few disk and some 'sugar cube', with 2 reports, one of a large round orange object, the other a large round red object. The only 2 that I saw that were triangular were the following, but from 1989 time period: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Report:--------------- NC081889.UFO Date of Sighting:----- August 18, 1989 Location of Sighting:- McGuire, North Carolina Classification:------- Details: At 3 pm, Paul L. Moore, a retired security guard at the McGuire Nuclear Plant saw a strange triangular shaped object for about two seconds. The UFO, about the "size of a Stealth bomber", made a 45 degree descent and moved towards McGuire. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 8/18 LINCOLNTON, N.C. 3:00 PM DD 1 wit. No sound XXXX Red/brown triangular object size of Stealth bomber near nuclear plant 300' off ground. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm sorry that I couldn't identify any more for you nor find any in that time frame (1975) but it's entirely conceivable that the reports haven't all been categorized. Good luck on your searches. Don -- Don Allen - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Don.Allen@p1.f81.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG ******************************************************************************* Submissions infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com Administrative requests infopara-request@scicom.alphacdc.com FTP archive grind.isca.uiowa.edu:/info/paranet/infopara Permission to distribute Michael.Corbin@paranet.org Private mail to Paranet/Fidonet users firstname.lastname@paranet.org UUCP gateway {ncar,isis,csn}!scicom *********************End**of**the**InfoPara**Newsletter************************