Abduction Digest, Number 79 Wednesday, November 25th 1992 (C) Copyright 1992 Paranet Information Service. All Rights Reserved. Today's Topics: Close Encounter group Stats Delaware talk Spheres and OOBEs Linda case ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob.Dunn@p0.f31.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Bob Dunn) Subject: Close Encounter group Date: 19 Nov 92 05:28:00 GMT This message was from SCOTT COLBORN to ALL, originally in conference FIDO UFO and was forwarded to you by BOB DUNN. ------------------------- Hello. My name is Scott Colborn, and I'm the Director of the Fortean Research Center, Lincoln, NE. I've had a special interest in reports of abduction and contact with regards to the UFO phenomena. About four years ago I founded a support group in the Lincoln, NE, area for people who had reported a close encounter experience. This group is on-going and is a "closed group" with screening of potential members done by myself. Please feel free to let people know who you may be in conversation with that this group exists. Secondly, we have developed a very good relationship with several psychologists and a psychiatrist who have expressed an interest in working with people who have made claims of close encounter experiences. Our support group works like many other types of support groups, and it can be as quiet or dynamic as the members wish. Again, please feel free to pass this information along to any who might find it of interest. Thanks for your help. Anyone wishing to communicate their interest may do so in care of this board, or, by writing me c/o: The Fortean Research Center, P.O. Box 94627, Lincoln, NE, 68509. I can be reached at 402-421-1701 from 1-7 p.m, Monday-Friday. Best wishes, Scott Colborn, Director, The Fortean Research Center. -- Bob Dunn - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Bob.Dunn@p0.f31.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff.Brewi@p0.f812.n202.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jeff Brewi) Subject: Stats Date: 19 Nov 92 01:42:36 GMT I am curious if there has been a statistical database made on most/all recorded abductions. I think this would be a valuable tool in studying prospective abductees if one could cross-reference with other abductees at a statistical level. I realize there would be numerous topics in the database, but I think if it were limited to the more common points it could be useful in some cases. Also curious about after affects/symptoms...do abductees feel extremely lethargic a few days after the abduction? Do they have physical signs such as swollen glands? flu/cold-like symptoms? etc.? >From what I have read, in most cases(all?), most abductees can tell of the abduction in 'vivid detail', are there any/many cases that are not so detailed, and can these 'vague' cases be deemed as an actual abduction? Are there any cases in which the conscious memory is vague, but under hypnotic regression the abduction is revealed in detail? -- Jeff Brewi - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Jeff.Brewi@p0.f812.n202.z1.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David.Jacobs@p0.f21.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (David Jacobs) Subject: Delaware talk Date: 20 Nov 92 06:26:47 GMT John, I will be glad to talk with you about the Linda case tothe best of my ability if I have the time after the Delaware MUFON talk. See you there. -- David Jacobs - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: David.Jacobs@p0.f21.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David.Jacobs@p0.f21.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (David Jacobs) Subject: Spheres and OOBEs Date: 20 Nov 92 06:38:32 GMT Michael, good to talk to you again. I am afraid that I have been somewhat lax in keeping up with the messages on Paranet so I am not exactly sure to what you refer when you talk about spheres. From time to time abductees will recount incidents in which a ball-shaped object will be passed over their body, or they will discuss spheres that emit light and that they are required to stand under. I have had a case in which a green sphere appeared to follow an abductee down a corridor during an abduction incident. Abductees will also report seeing balls of light in their room seconds before an abduction. In the same way they will often think that they are having an out of body experience when in fact they are being floated up and out of their room. I have even had them "remember" that they could "see" their bodies still in the bed or chair while they floated up. Investigation revealed that that was not the case. Out of Body Experiences are apparently a real phenomenon. It is usually coupled with extreme stress or trauma (being on an operating table, or lying on the pavement after having been hit by a truck), or by meditation in which an out of body experience is desired. When abductees think that they have had an OBE, it is often unwanted or unexpected. They might be sitting on the couch with a can of beer in their hands watching David Letterman when suddenly they begin to have an "out of body experience." Needless to say, this is very suspicious and when a researcher hears this it is important to be suspicious about the incident--it might mask something else happening. -- David Jacobs - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: David.Jacobs@p0.f21.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David.Jacobs@p0.f21.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (David Jacobs) Subject: Linda case Date: 20 Nov 92 06:43:44 GMT Don, Linda's case, in my estimation, is rock solid. This is a multileveled case involving a series of witnesses to the complex events within it. Budd Hopkins will have a piece come out in the next MUFON UFO Journal about one of the witnesses which, I think, will help to alleviate some of the anxiety about this case. -- David Jacobs - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: David.Jacobs@p0.f21.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG ******************************************************************************* Submissions abduct@scicom.alphacdc.com Administrative requests abduct-request@scicom.alphacdc.com FTP archive grind.isca.uiowa.edu:/info/paranet/abduct Permission to distribute Michael.Corbin@paranet.org Private mail to Paranet/Fidonet users firstname.lastname@paranet.org UUCP gateway {ncar,isis,csn}!scicom ********************End**of**the**Abduction**Newsletter************************