From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.religion.kibology,alt.conspiracy Subject: Cooper Speaks In L.A. Date: 3 Nov 93 06:39:38 GMT Dear People Of Earth: Although I was unable to go to the actual leacture of Bill Cooper in San Mateo, Calif. this weekend, here is a write up of one of his speeches a few years back............................................ Fellow computer enthusiasts, 11-24-89 What follows is a transcript of a 45 minute lecture that I at- tended on 11-17-89 at the "Whole Life Expo." in Los Angeles, California. Speaking was Mr. Milton William Cooper who I first became acquainted with through a text file I downloaded from a local computer BBS. The file dealt with the subject of UFO's and our government's concealment of the truth about them in such a way that it made a lasting impression on me, which is why I attended his lecture; to learn more. Please forgive my probable misspelling of some of the proper names in the transcript which follows and allow that I have taken it as best I could, word- for-word, from a less than acceptable micro-cassette recording. If you are as moved by what you are about to read as I was in hearing it first hand, I ask that you please spread it as far and wide as possible. Upload it to every BBS in your reach and please, don't change anything. Also, please give considerable thought to Mr. Cooper's suggestions as to what we all can do to see that this information is confirmed by our government to make them stop what they are up to. Thank you, and now, Milton Cooper: "For those of you who don't know who I am, I was raised in a military family. My family, my ancestors, since they came to this country, have been government people. We have served in the military, we have been patriots, we have fought in all the wars, we care about this country and believe in the constitution of the United States. We know, as many people don't know, that the Constitution of the United States of America IS the United States of America! And that's why we've always been ready ...to do the things needed ...to preserve and protect it." "When I left home I went into the Air Force, the Strategic Air Command. As a child I'd heard stories from my father and pilots, other pilots, my father was a pilot, about Foo Fighters, UFO's, strange craft that were not made on this Earth. And as a kid, you hear that in passing, and it's neat, and you giggle about it, and you go out and play "Space Man", and you forget it." "When I was in the Air Force I met men who had participated in alien crashed-craft recoveries. Now this intrigued me, it in- terested me, but it was usually after quite a few bottles of beer that these stories would come out, and sometimes the next morning I couldn't remember what the heck the guy said." "When I left the Air Force I went into the Navy, and this is where everything began to happen for me. I had originally inten- ded to just go from service to service and do something that very few people have ever done before. I was a very adventurous, very crazy ...young man, and I thought that that would be a pretty exciting life. I volunteered for submarines, and while on the submarine U.S.S. Tyroot, SS-416, on a transit between the Portland/Seattle area and Pearl Harbor, which was our home port; the Pearl Harbor sub base, as the port lookout I saw a craft, saucer-shaped, the size of a Midway class carrier, aircraft carrier, for those of you who don't know how big that is; it's huge, come up out of the water approximately 2 1/2 nautical miles off the port bow, which is about 45 degrees to the left of the pointy end of the submarine. It tumbled slowly on its own axis, and went up into the clouds. It appeared to be moving slowly to me at a distance of 2 1/2 nautical miles, but in reality it was moving pretty fast because it came up out of the water, did a few tumbles and it was gone!" "I then reported it to the officer of the deck. I didn't tell him what it was that I saw because my Daddy didn't raise no fools and in case nobody else saw it I didn't want to be the only looney onboard the ship. So I asked the officer of the deck to help me cover that area, and he did, which is common for of- ficers and lookouts to help each other while on bridge watch be- cause they all hang together if something bad happens. After a few seconds of watching, the same craft, or another craft exact- ly like it, came down out of the clouds, tumbled again on its own axis, and went into the water. Ensign Ball, who was the of- ficer of the deck, was literally shocked! What could I say? Sea- man Dejeralimo, who was the starboard lookout, had also witnes- sed this, and ensign Ball called the captain to the bridge who was followed by the chief quartermaster who brought a 35MM cam- era, and we watched for between 7 and 10 minutes the same craft, or different craft that looked exactly alike, enter and leave the water. It was an incredible show. I don't know if they knew we were there, or if they even cared, but the craft did not glow, they were metal, they were machines without a doubt, they were obviously intelligently guided, they were HUGE, and having been in the Air Force and the Navy and knowing what it takes, I knew without a doubt, and know it today, that that machine was not made on the face of this Earth. Because there's nothing that man can make, that can fly through the air at a speed like that, tumble on its own axis, and enter the water and effectively fly beneath the sea." "If you've ever been aboard an airplane and then gone aboard a submarine, I know there's probably some of you in this room who have visited a submarine at one time or another, you can readily see just without even any of the technicalities involved how difficult such a thing would be to do. Where would it be built, that size? It was absolutely incredible. It changed my life because then all the stories that I'd heard all my life I knew were true, and I began seeing the world in a different light." "It wasn't long after that I was trained by Naval security in intelligence. I was sent to Viet Nam. I was assigned as a patrol boat captain, first in DaNang harbor, given a crew, given a multi-million dollar patrol boat. My job was to gather intel- ligence from the people who lived around the harbor and the fishermen who transited the harbor, and maintain the safety and security of the harbor and the shipping. After about 5-months I was sent up North to the DMZ, to a place called Qua Vieaf [sp], on the Tacan [sp] river. Our base camp was at the river mouth. We were only 3-miles South of the North Vietnamese border and our job was to patrol the Tacan river from the river mouth to Dang Ha [sp], and then up the Quang Tree [sp] cutoff to Quang Tree city, again to get to know the people on the bank, gather intelligence, and to patrol every night and maintain the safety and security of the river and the river traffic." "It was while there that I discovered that there was a tremen- dous amount of UFO and alien activity in Viet Nam. It was always reported in official messages as `enemy helicopters.' Now any of you who know anything about the Viet Nam war know that the North Vietnamese did not have any helicopters, especially after our first couple of air raids into North Viet Nam. Even if they had they would not have been so foolish as to bring them over the DMZ because that would have insured their demise. Our troops were fired on occasionally by these `enemy helicopters,' enemy troops were fired on occasionally by these `enemy helicopters,' and occasionally people would disappear. And on one instance that I know for sure at least one entire village disappeared one night due to alien activity. The reason they used the term `enemy helicopters' in messages and dispatches was that in Viet Nam you could be overrun at any time, no matter where you where. They did not bring crypto encoding equipment into Viet Nam, I'm talking about the machinery. What we did is we had crypto tab- les, and once we every 24-hours those codes would be no good. So that's what we used. We also, because of the inability to use crypto transmitting equipment, had to devise code words such as `enemy helicopters.'" "When I left Viet Nam I was eventually attached to the head- quarters staff of the Commander in Chief of the United States Pacific Fleet at Macalappa, [sp] Hawaii, which is a little hill overlooking Pearl Harbor, it's a beautiful white building up there, and I was specifically attached to the Intelligence Briefing Team of the Commander in Chief of the United States Pacific Fleet." "It was during this tour of duty that, in the course of my duties, documents were placed in my hands that were so unbeliev- able and so incredible that it took me quite a while to adjust to the fact that what I was seeing was real. Now for those of you who don't understand how I could come to see this informa- tion let me give you a little short course in security clearance and "the need to know" and how you get to see classified infor- mation if you're in the military or in the government, it does- n't matter which, the rules are the same." "Number one you need a security clearance, and you've got to have clearance at the level that the information you want to see is classified at. In this instance it was classified `Top Sec- ret, Magic, Restricted Information,' which I came to find out later is the highest security classification in the Nation. To get that type of clearance, all you have to have is a Federal Bureau of Investigation background check, which takes about six months and they send federal agents to your home, to your old schools, to all your teachers, to your friends, to everybody you put down on your security clearance forms, to all your old ad- dresses, your neighbors, everybody that you've worked for, and it's embarrassing because they don't tell them what they're checking on. They just show them their identification and start asking questions and that's when you find out who's your friend and who's not, because a lot of people get scared and think, `Bill just robbed a bank and I'm not talkin' to him anymore.'" "Now once you get that it's called a `B.I.' and for those of you who have received a copy of my service record look on the first page, the DD-214 where it says `Security Clearance,' you will see the term `B.I.' That's a `Bureau of Investigation' clearance. Now at that point, you have the clearance for every- thing including Top Secret and above. What determines what you get to see is your need to know, and the job that you have de- termines what your need to know is." "I was assigned to the Intelligence Briefing Team of the Com- mander in Chief of the United States Pacific Fleet, who had to know everything concerning his area of operations which was one- half of the Earth's surface; the Indian ocean, the Pacific ocean, and all the land masses in between. Believe it or not, if we go to war, if we ever go to war, it's the United States Navy that strikes the first blow and attempts to keep the enemy at bey while we can get ourselves together, at least historically. Nuclear weapons have kind of done away with that concept, but military commanders like to talk about it anyway." "Because of this, and you have no conception of the amount of material and information that an area commander has to know, it's unbelievable, and he has to keep track of this, he has to keep on top of it. He has to know what's happening, he has to make the right decisions. Because it's almost humanly impossible for anyone to do that, they have what's called a briefing team, and it's our job to make sure that he has the correct informa- tion, all the time, on a 24-hour basis. And every morning, be- tween 8 and 9 AM, we would give a briefing which covered every- thing that happened in the previous 24-hours, and everything scheduled to happen in the next 24-hours, and all the pertinent intelligence reports that we had received since the last brief- ing that he needed to know and that his staff members needed to know. Occasionally we would get messages marked `Top Secret, Magic, Restricted Information,' and it would be coded in such a way that all you had were answers to questions which you didn't know what the questions were so you really didn't know what the message was all about." "But eventually I found myself in possession, holding two documents; one called `Project Grudge,' another one called `Op- eration Majority.' Project Grudge contained the history of alien involvement since around 1936, and it began talking about Germany's involvement with a crashed-disk that they had reco- vered in 1936 and were attempting to duplicate the technology. They were not successful despite what all these Nazi hunters want to tell you. If they had been successful, we would not have won the war, because you cannot beat those weapons! You cannot outfly those craft, you can't even think about it with conven- tional aircraft. If Germany had been successful, we would now have a German flag up in front of this podium." "They did make some headway. When we went into Punta Mundy [sp] we captured documents, we got some scientists, we got some hardware. The Russians also got some documents, some scientists, and some hardware. It wasn't until 1947 that we were able to capture a craft, a whole craft, not all together but it was everything. And that occurred near the city of Roswell, New Mexico. There were dead aliens recovered from the craft. In Pro- ject Grudge I saw photographs of these dead aliens, of the craft, I saw photographs of live aliens, I saw photographs of autopsies, internal organs, I saw photographs of the alien des- ignated `E.B.'[or Ebe] which was held in captivity from 1949 un- til June the 2nd, 1952 when he died. I saw the history of what they had been able to at that time put together, from incidents in the 1800's which involved aliens and their craft." "I saw the names of projects. I saw a project that was to fly recovered alien craft that had been recovered intact and undam- aged, and some of them were recovered intact and undamaged, and how that happened I have no idea. It was called `Project Red- light,' and first was conducted from the Tonopah test range in the Nevada test sight and then was moved to a specially built area, ordered built by president Eisenhower, called `Area-51,' code named `Dreamland,' in the Groom [sp] dry lake area of the Nevada test sight, by secret executive order. It doesn't exist officially, if you ask anyone, or if you write letters to the government they will tell you it doesn't exist. However if you go out there at several places and see it, fly outside the boundaries and look down and see it, you know it's there, but according to the government it doesn't exist." "The project to fly, test fly these craft, was ongoing until sometime in 1962 when a craft blew up not far from the test sight, in the air, and the explosion was seen over a three-state area. The pilots were killed, they had no idea what had happened or why the craft blew up, but they put Project Redlight on hold until a later date when the aliens supplied us with 3-craft and personnel to help us learn how to fly these craft. That project is ongoing and we now have not only alien craft that we are fly- ing, we have craft we have built, using the captured technology, and some of the UFO's that people report seeing in the United States, and maybe even elsewhere, are flown by United States personnel." "That may come as a shock to you. We have technology way be- yond the limits of what we have been told. A lot of our develop- ment technologically, since the end of World War II, has been due to the exchange of technology which occurs in the area called `Area-51' on a regular basis ...ongoing." "When James Oberth, professor Oberth retired, many of you don't know who he is ...not too many space people in here. Pro- fessor Oberth was probably one of the greatest rocket scientists and space commentists that ever lived. When he retired, the gov- ernment gave him a special award, there was a press conference, all kinds of ceremony, and when he got up to speak he said, `Gentlemen,' and I quote professor Oberth, he said, `Gentlemen, we cannot take credit for all the technological developments that we have had in the last decade. We have had help,' and that's where he stopped." "One of the reporters raised his hand and said, `Professor Oberth, can you tell us what other country helped us?'" "He said, `It was those little guys from out in space,' and then he got down and and would not comment any further. Now this occurred in 1959. I can go on and on but time doesn't allow it." "I will tell you ladies and gentlemen that there are all kinds of things going on all the time, we are making rapid progress in exposing this. Since I have begun talking, people have been com- ing out of the woodwork at a rapid rate, who know and have pieces of this puzzle, and are helping us to put it together, because I don't have all the answers. I saw an awful lot of ma- terial, I have remembered an awful lot of it, I have probably, in my remembering, made some mistakes, and I guarantee you they're minor ones, if I have." JW. That's the end of part 2. John Winston From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.religion.kibology,alt.conspiracy Subject: Cooper Speaks In L.A. Part 3. Date: 5 Nov 93 01:46:35 GMT Subject: Cooper Speaks In L.A. The news about part 3 of the Bill Cooper speech in L.A. is that the floppy disk I was getting the information from just destructed. It was getting to a point that I didn't want to put on the Net and the tape wouldn't work anymore. The End Part 3. John Winston.