From: rkrouse@octel.com (Robert Rouse) Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors Subject: Crop circles in New York City Date: 9 Jul 93 17:29:46 GMT Organization: Octel Communications Corporation [ Article crossposted from sci.skeptic ] [ Author was Martin Hempstead ] [ Posted on 9 Jul 1993 09:42:13 GMT ] Sorry for the sensational headline! Colin Andrews, a crop circle "personality" and purveyor of dubious research, was recently in the UK to promote his latest venture, a big crop circle investigation apparently funded by the UN. I debated him on the radio, but forgot to ask how much he was getting. The point of this posting is to draw the attention of any interested NYC skeptics to the fact (?) that he will be addressing the UN on October 21st about crop circles. Perhaps you NYC skeptics would care to counter his nonsense with some facts - assuming you are not too heavily occupied already! I will send more info on the subject to people who email me directly. there follows the text of CA's press release in the UK: [CPR = Circles Phenomenon Research] CPR USA PO Box 3378 Branford Connecticut 06405 Tel/Fax (203) 458-8047 USA CPR UK 14 Reynolds Court Artist Way Andover Hants SP10 3ST UK Tel/Fax (0264) 358402 May 24 1993 CIRCLES PHENOMENON RESEARCH UK-USA-CANADA-AUSTRALIA-BELGIUM Colin Andrews, author of the best-selling book 'Circular Evidence', and formerly from Andover, is flying out of America on Tuesday (25th May) and will spend until 28th August in Hampshire and Wiltshire, UK, with the largest gathering of international scientists yet, to further investigate the Crop Circles. He will fly to make presentations in a number of countries during the period, including Malta, Ireland, Iceland and the USA. The research project will include measuring the electrostatic field and the Magnetic field at sites in Hampshire and Wiltshire. Very secret projects involving well-known mediums will also be undertaken and has [sic(k)] been planned by Scientists who discovered unusual markings and geometry on Mars [guess who]. These findings were presented to the United Nations in New York during summer 1992, by Dick Hoagland - NASA consultant. Colin can update you further when he arrives in the UK. The following is a press statement just released by CPR International, in America. It relates to Colin Andrews' address to the United Nations, which has now been officially announced for 21st October 1993 at UN headquarters in New York. Yours sincerely Synthia Ramsby - Director USA (for Colin Andrews) Colin Andrews' address at the United Nations Mohammad Ramadan, president of the parapsychological group [!] at the United Nations who recently sponsored Richard Hoagland's presentation to the U.N. on the Mission to Mars, met Colin Andrews at the United Nations building in New York several months ago. At the meeting, Mr. Ramadan set Colin the almost impossible challenge of discovering the meaning behind the crop circles and ancient writings, the findings of which to be presented at the U.N. in October. Many front line research contacts have already been drawn up to assist in bringing together the vast data pool of information by research groups and governments around the world. Numerous governments have studied and collected information related to the UFO and the Crop Circles. they have clearly found it difficult, if not impossible, to make any public statement on matters associated with both. Unusual patterns, assumed as writings (i.e. languages) have appeared in fields in the form of crop markings and have been scratched on metallic surfaces following alleged abduction cases. These etchings resemble markings on Sumerian Tablets and petroglyphs on stone and rocks in several parts of the world. The mammoth task is to try and place these together and see if there is a cohesive message [and the researchers can practise on any of Mr. Andrew's "books"]. Those who claim extraterrestrial contact and communication with such through symbols are to be part of the four month blitz on the world's data bank. this may represent one of the first opportunities to bring major information regrading such events into the realm of the public through a non-political figure under the auspices of the U.N. Ultimately a situation of such immense proportion must certainly be addressed through the resources of this assemblage. Careful assessment of all the facts known to us will be studied before the presentation is given at the United Nations on 21st October. The presentation will be attended by delegates and U.N. officials and is open to the general public. For more information contact Mohammad Ramadan at the U.N., tel. (212) 963-6506. I intend to present the information at Reykjavik in Iceland on 3-7th November. For information, contact Iceland International Conference - Tony Dodd Tel. England (0756) 752216. 30 So there you have it. Perhaps the event will generate so little interest that it's not worth putting a skeptical viewpoint, but if anyone in NYC does want to follow it up, I will, as I said, be happy to provide general background information on crop circles; e-mail mh@orc.soton.ac.uk.