Date: 02-03-92  23:27 
    From: John Powell 
    To:   Bob Fletcher 
    Subj: Helicopters (Unmarked) 

    In a message to All <02 Feb 92 11:12> Bob Fletcher wrote: 

    BF> We hear a lot about unmarked helicopters around the areas where 
    BF> there has been some UFO activity.   But who has seen one? 
    BF> Well I have! 

    Me too!  Here's my sighting from August 1991: 
    
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    In a message to John Hicks <07 Aug 91 10:34> David Bump wrote: 
    
    DB>   A couple who live near Flushing, Mi, and belong to MUFON , 
    DB> have reported sighting a "black helicopter" that seemed to be 
    DB> spying on them!   But this one had rotors and sound.  They 
    DB> figured it was the government keeping on an eye on them.   I 
    DB> think they have an exaggerated idea of how the govmnt views them 
    DB> as dangerous subsversives or something. 

    Who knows... 

    I just saw a "black helicopter"  this afternoon.   (My _first_!)   It 
    was  painted  completely  flat black,  completely  blacked  out  non-
    reflective windows,  absolutely unmarked, and rather silent.   It was 
    early  afternoon,  about 2:00pm,  and it was a  rainy/misty  overcast 
    foggy/hazy kind of day.   This was in the business park where I work, 
    of all places,  and the helicopter was moving real slow,  only  about 
    10mph  at most,  and real low,  only about 3 stories off the  ground, 
    moving  over  the parking lot where I was in my car watching it as  I 
    was driving out of the parking lot.  I  was about 50  yards away from 
    it, maybe closer.  I saw part of the front, all of the left side very 
    clearly,  and part of the bottom.  I saw it for about 5 seconds but I 
    couldn't  stop just then since I was going around a corner and  there 
    was  a car behind me.   It wasn't silent but it was definately  quiet 
    and (something I thought was odd, there was no "prop wash" (if that's 
    the right term) - there was absolutely no air displacement.  About 15 
    seconds later I turned/looked around and it was out of sight. 

    I'm not a military gear buff but fortunately my kid saved hundreds of 
    magazine  clippings of the Gulf War so I can describe it as  kind  of 
    like an AH-64 without the wing pods and armament,  kind of like the a 
    AH-1W,   and kind of like the helicopter from the movie Blue Thunder.  
    (They are a _lot_ bigger up close than I had previously thought.) 

    Making a wild guess from the short flight direction I noticed I would 
    guess it was coming from Aberdeen Proving Grounds or Edgewood Arsenal 
    and  was  heading for a local civilian defense contractor called  AAI 
    (they  built the RPV's used successfully in the Gulf War)   which  is 
    only about 3 miles from where I saw it. 

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    BF> Was it there because I was there.   Was it Australian Military, 
    BF> ASIO, CIA, or ET Surveylance craft. 

    What exactly did it look like,  can you compare it to known Aus. gear 
    or known US gear? 

    BF> If appears one woman has reported a UFO entering the side of the 
    BF> mountain. 

    This "Black Helicopter"  sub-event is somewhat confusing.  There seem 
    to be a number of different categories.  First, the category for your 
    sighting and mine - a near normal helicopter doing normal things that 
    just  happens  to be black.   Second,  black helicopters  terrorizing 
    people,  usually people who have recently been associated with a  UFO 
    sighting.   Third,  helicopters in general,  and usually _not_ black, 
    doing  things that helicopters _can't_ do.   (Have you read Report on 
    Communion by Ed Conroy?   He has some interesting things to say about 
    this  particular  category.)    Fourth,  and this is  essentially  an 
    extension   of   #3,    helicopters  that  don't  quite   look   like 
    helicopters... 

    (UFOs entering the sides of mountains has also been reported in South 
    America.) 

    Thanks, take care. 
    John.