RECENT SKY ACTIVITY (as reported through 1/5/95) ======================================================================= The following is a somewhat loose and informal assemblage of -recent- reports from the Internet, of unusual things seen in the skies. They should follow in chronological order. If you're aware of any reports not found here, please e-mail me at . You'll notice I've included reports of objects described as bolides, or fireballs. As this may or may not apply to all those so described, I've included them all. It is also likely that some of those reports describing something that is clearly aircraft of some type, are advanced military aircraft. Again, this file is a catch-all for everything recently reported. Hopefully, time, and information from readers will help sort these out. I welcome your help. I would especially be interested in someone having the time and facility to compare this approximate 6-7 week period with other similar periods in the recent past, in terms of number/frequency/quality of sighting reports not only on the Internet, but in the mass media as well. If my memory serves (could be a big "if"), it would appear there may be -at least- 5 good videos of UFOs taken in the United States during this period (roughly 11/15-12/31). Anyone have an idea how long one would have to go back in time to find the previous 5 good videos of UFOs in the U.S. (outside of Gulf Breeze)? (The 5 I recall are: Vista, California on 11/28; Kentucky on 12/2; Miami, Florida on 12/14-15; Traverse City, Michigan on 12/21; and Lansing, Michigan on 12/25.) Jackson Donovan ======================================================================= "...There will be a significant increase of UFO activity preceding the Night of Lights in the following countries. Russia, United States, Canada, Mexico, Ukraine. In some of these countries, it has already begun...." (from Night of Lights - 2, 11/20/94) "...In your mind, there is one question above all others. When? When are they returning? Be assured that it is not a question of "IF," but "WHEN". ...Before this time, their will be ever-increasing acts of contact. It will begin slowly, so as not to panic anyone, and increase in both frequency and degree, of revelation... There has been a noticeable lack of UFO activity in the last year and a half. Do not be fooled into thinking they have left or lost interest. This is merely the calm before the storm...." (from Way - 12, 11/27/94) (For instructions on where/how to access these and related files, see the end of this file.) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.interserv.net!usenet From: jweiskop@interserv.com (John Weiskopf) Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo Subject: UFO Sighting in Southern California Date: 30 Nov 1994 04:12:32 GMT Organization: NovX InterServ News Service Lines: 32 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bgu3g$9d5@data.interserv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dc6_p19.sprint.dialup.net X-Newsreader: AIR News 3.X (SPRY, Inc.) Sunday Morning. 27 Nov., 1994. approximately 6:47 a.m.. Route 60 East about 5 miles beyond where Interstate 15 intersects. The morning was unusually clear due to the previous night's high wind storms and northern front. The sun was up, bright, visibility was between 75-100 miles. The region was fairly rural, not deep rural, but rural compared to the suburbs. I am a skydiver. I was traveling to Perris Valley Skydive Center to jump for the day. I was traveling East on Hwy. 60. (for this discussion, consider my traveling position at the 12 o'clock position. I noticed what I thought was an airplane above and beyond the mountains at the 11 o'clock position. It was very clear. I watched it wondering what airport it was approaching. There was only one other car on the road that I can remember. Still driving, I continued to look from the road out the windshield to the sky, following the airplane. Then, I saw a brilliant white light (like a spot light) coming from the plane. Immediately, I thought it was an approach light on the plane or a reflection from the sun, which was rising in the 1 o'clock position, again me traveling at the 12 o'clock position. The light went off. I watched more. The road. The plane. I slowed slightly. The plane continued. I started thinking about the spotlight/reflection-- wondering how as a spotlight it could be that bright? Or how it could be a relection from the sun, when the sun was at 1 o'clock, and the plane was at 11 o'clock? Then, the bright white light went on again. I thought quickly. For it to be a reflection, the sun would have to be in the 3 o'clock to 7 o'clock position to be at the right angle. Then, I slowed down to watch. I scanned the sky, but could find nothing. In two seconds, the object was gone. Completely gone. It was clearest day in Los Angeles (at outside) that I've seen in maybe a year. I'm used to looking through sky for planes because I'm a skydiver. I had a clear visible field of 270 degress. I stopped the car. And scanned the sky. My eyes went back and forth over the area where I had sighted the object. But it was gone. That's it. No great drama. no great hoopla. I've never seen one before. And don't know if I'll ever see one. I don't know if it was a plane, a UFO, or what it was. All I know it was clear day, the object gave off a bright light (twice), and it disappeared in two seconds. John Weiskopf ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: VISTA SIGHTINGS Date: 94-11-29 19:23:09 EST From: REERON Were there any witnesses to a UFO sighted over the Vista/Carlsbad area of Southern California last night, November 29th, between 9pm and midnight? We have five witnesses and a very high quality video of event and are looking for additional corroboration. Please respond ASAP with your details. REERON- MUFON North County -------------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: Re:VISTA SIGHTINGS Date: 94-11-29 19:25:29 EST From: REERON I'm sorry, that correct date of sightings was Monday, November 28th. I got my days confused!!! REERON -------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo,alt.alien.visitors Path: news1.is.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!3dgraph.slip.netcom.com!user From: 3dgraph@netcom.com (Bryan Gibson-Winge) Subject: ABC News video of Kentucky sighting...? Message-ID: <3dgraph-0212942353350001@3dgraph.slip.netcom.com> Sender: netnews@netcom.com (USENET Administration) Organization: Three D Graphics Date: Sat, 3 Dec 1994 07:53:35 GMT Lines: 11 Xref: news1.is.net alt.paranet.ufo:14075 alt.alien.visitors:47706 Here in L.A., ABC news apparantly aired a report this afternoon about 30-40 UFO reports in Kentucky, and showed some amature video of the "event". We watched, but this report was not repeated during any subsequent newscasts. Can anyone confirm/deny/clarify this story? Bryan & Lisa Gibson-Winge 3dgraph@netcom.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: minresco@ix.netcom.com (elc/slc) Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo,alt.alien.visitors Subject: Re: ABC News video of Kentucky sighting...? Date: 3 Dec 1994 16:25:01 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 30 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bq64t$h54@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> References: <3dgraph-0212942353350001@3dgraph.slip.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-sj9-17.ix.netcom.com Xref: news1.is.net alt.paranet.ufo:14086 alt.alien.visitors:47715 In <3dgraph-0212942353350001@3dgraph.slip.netcom.com> 3dgraph@netcom.com (Bryan Gibson-Winge) writes: > >Here in L.A., ABC news apparantly aired a report this afternoon about >30-40 UFO reports in Kentucky, and showed some amature video of the >"event". We watched, but this report was not repeated during any >subsequent newscasts. > >Can anyone confirm/deny/clarify this story? In San Jose, the NBC news brief at 9:00PM mentioned the sighting of UFO's by hundreds of people and video. This was a very quick brief and they said to tune in at 11:00 for details, which I did. Not a mention of the sightings! Turned on the TV this morning and nothing. We can start a new news blackout conspiracy!!! Gene Cisneros -- MINERALOGICAL RESEARCH CO. email minresco@ix.netcom.com Phone (408)923-6800 FAX (408)926-6015 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!swiss.ans.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: zate@aol.com (Zate) Newsgroups: alt.ufo.reports Subject: olympia, wash Date: 4 Dec 1994 03:15:03 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 11 Sender: news@newsbf01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3brtq7$d3g@newsbf01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf01.news.aol.com Bright star object approached to a building directly across street from me in downtown Olympia. Appeared as ball of light, as like spherical, suddenly appeared much higher in sky. shifted to new position, could not see it get from pointA to pointB. Next thing I knew, huge bright, flashing, blinking lights in my face, as if shining in my window. Felt an extremely intense, mindexpanding, psychic enlargement, whole new feeling, never before felt. Then saw wide plane like object with no nose or tail, directly over head; I could see ribbing on the bottom. No noise. Had three skeptical witnesses. Strange things have happened ever since. Does anyone know of anything of that shape or had that psychic 6th sense feeling upon sighting so called ufo's? I was a skeptic. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!pipex!uunet!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: fraterd@aol.com (Frater D) Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo Subject: Re: ABC News video of Kentucky sighting...? Date: 3 Dec 1994 21:50:16 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 6 Sender: news@newsbf01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3brap8$9pf@newsbf01.news.aol.com> References: <3dgraph-0212942353350001@3dgraph.slip.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf01.news.aol.com In article <3dgraph-0212942353350001@3dgraph.slip.netcom.com>, 3dgraph@netcom.com (Bryan Gibson-Winge) writes: My wife (who is a skeptic) said she saw it on the local news here in Nashville, Tn. last night. I unfortunately missed it. Dan ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!news.uh.edu!news.sccsi.com!nuchat!bgbbs!jason.blevins Distribution: world Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo Subject: Tulsa UFO Sightings From: jason.blevins@bgbbs.com (Jason Blevins) Message-ID: <67.11225.1018@bgbbs.com> Date: Sun, 04 Dec 1994 04:58:00 -0500 Organization: ¨¨ Black Gold BBS - Tulsa, OK - 918-272-7779 - telnet bgbbs.com øø Lines: 33 In recent days, residents of Tulsa, Oklahoma and surrounding communities have reported the appearance of a bright unidentified object in the evening sky. These reports have been described in local news broadcasts, but have not yet been explained. The reports seem to coincide with sightings of a similar object in the state of Kentucky. The following description was derived from a witness who was interviewed shortly after seeing the object: On Thursday, December 1, 1994, between 5:30pm and 6:00pm, the witness was driving west on Highway 51 between Tulsa and Sand Springs. Another witness, who has not yet been interviewed, was also in the vehicle. The witness reported that the sun was below the horizon, but that the western sky was still illuminated. He also reported the presence of scattered dark clouds. The witness noticed a very bright, white light to the west/southwest, in front of the clouds, and approximately 30 degrees above the horizon. The light remained absolutely motionless for several minutes, shining steadily, then seemed to begin moving slowly to the north just before the witness left the highway. The witness also reported the appearance of a small, red light pulsating to the left of the larger, white light. The witness did not report any sound. The witness does not believe that the light was a star or planet. The witness also claims that the light was too large and bright to be an airplane or helicopter. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!swiss.ans.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: skipshell@aol.com (SKIPSHELL) Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo Subject: strange sighting in San Diego, CA Date: 4 Dec 1994 13:10:15 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 4 Sender: news@newsbf01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3bt0m7$ifh@newsbf01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf01.news.aol.com Anyone have any information on a supposed UFO sighting or meteor over San Diego, CA on 12/3/94--There was a brief news report on T.V. around 6:00pm. But nothing in any papers today (12/4/94) and no further mentions on any news. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!mail-news-gateway From: ketchmark.1@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Kelley L Ketchmark) Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors Subject: Kentucky and Florida sightings Date: 4 Dec 1994 19:37:56 -0500 Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 24 Sender: root@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Message-ID: <199412050036.TAA21623@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu I saw the news story about the Kentucky sightings, but it was on the Columbus local news at 11:00 - and on NBC, at that. It described this perfect silver sphere that hovered above the forest and then disappeared. Did anyone else see Hard copy that same night? They talked about a town in Florida that was seeing the *exact same types of things* The people there had countless tapes of all of it and these silver balls in the sky could go from 0 mph to 2,000 mph in 1 second. Scientists say they don't know what the objects are, but the tapes have not been falsified. Okay, I know it's Hard Copy and all, but this time it sounded like they had scientific proof that these objects were real - whatever they were. ************************************* I'm having a wonderful time, but I'd rather be whistling in the dark. Kelley L Ketchmark ketchmark.1@osu.edu ************************************* ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!mintaka!infinity From: infinity@mintaka.sdsu.edu (David E. Coleman) Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo Subject: Re: strange sighting in San Diego, CA Date: 5 Dec 1994 04:26:01 GMT Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences Lines: 22 Message-ID: <3bu4op$ot5@pandora.sdsu.edu> References: <3bt0m7$ifh@newsbf01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mintaka.sdsu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] SKIPSHELL (skipshell@aol.com) wrote: : Anyone have any information on a supposed UFO sighting or meteor over San : Diego, CA on 12/3/94--There was a brief news report on T.V. around 6:00pm. : But nothing in any papers today (12/4/94) and no further mentions on any : news. The new woman at work told me she saw the meteor and thought it was a UFO. There were blue flashes of light associated with it. She was in Santee at the time, to the east-northeast of San Diego by 8-12 miles. One/more of the members of the local MUFON chapter, called ORION, have video of a flap in Gila Bend in Arizona some time back, during this year. Its supposedly quite impressive, was associated with many witnesses, and I missed it at the beginning of the 10 PM news on Channel 10 last night. Amicitia Subjugat Omnia More galactic thoughts from: ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- David E. Coleman infinity@mintaka.sdsu.edu PO Box 151426 Graduate Astronomy San Diego, CA 92175 San Diego State University ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I believe we are talking about the same incident, only I did not become aware of it until friday. The problem I'm having with this incident is that according to the news "thousands" of people saw a "large" bright blue ball go down somewhere near San Diego--And the newspapers here (near Sacramento, CA) didn't report anything--I don't believe "thousands" of people would describe pea sized meteorites as a"large blue ball" Any comments? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!swiss.ans.net!hermes.louisville.edu!starbase!ewtayl01 From: ewtayl01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (Eric W. Taylor) Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo,alt.alien.visitors Subject: Re: ABC News video of Kentucky sighting...? Date: 5 Dec 1994 13:34:18 GMT Organization: University of Louisville, Louisville KY USA Lines: 51 Message-ID: <3bv4sq$j9k@hermes.louisville.edu> References: <3dgraph-0212942353350001@3dgraph.slip.netcom.com> <3bq64t$h54@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> <3bs8lg$bsr@en.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: starbase.spd.louisville.edu X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #2 (NOV) Xref: news1.is.net alt.paranet.ufo:14167 alt.alien.visitors:47841 In <3bs8lg$bsr@en.com> ak35@en.com (Andrew J. Kurtz) writes: >: In San Jose, the NBC news brief at 9:00PM mentioned the sighting of >: UFO's by hundreds of people and video. This was a very quick brief and >: they said to tune in at 11:00 for details, which I did. Not a mention >: of the sightings! Turned on the TV this morning and nothing. We can >: start a new news blackout conspiracy!!! >: Gene Cisneros >The San Jose event was a bright fireball -- IFO to the many >amateur astronomers who saw it. >I didn't hear anything about a sighting in KY... >ak The sighting was very close to Louisville, Kentucky...just outside...I've forgotten the name of the town. I live a few miles north in Southern Indiana. Around 10 O'Clock people started seeing a moving, bright white light high in the sky. The police confirmed the report and several officers also saw it. It lastest for about an hour. Once news got out on police radio, people with scanners went out to look at it and therefore a hundred or so people saw it. The police checked with local airports and the object did not appear on radar. Police even checked in Dayton Ohio with the military, but they claimed that it was not one of theirs. One officer said he believed that it was a weather balloon high enough in the atmosphere to reflect the sunlight and this is the story I heard on the news that night. Another office said it was mars. Does anyone know whether it is feasible for mars to be visible in the sky at this time of the year around 10 oclock at the Louisville, Ky latitude? What about the balloon theory...how high would a weather balloon have to be at 10pm to reflect light from the sun and be seen at our latitude? There were also some reports coming in later the next morning around 1 am and 4 am.... assuming that these weren't just mistaken identities by people who heard the news earlier, it would somewhat discount the possibility of it being mars or a weather balloon. They said the object was moving, but the footage I saw of it had no frame of reference, therefore it was difficult to tell which motions were the camera operators and which could be the ufo's. Hope that cleared things up. Eric ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!qualcomm.com!usenet From: t_dcondie@qualcomm.com (David Condie) Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors Subject: Sighting in San Diego area? Date: 5 Dec 1994 18:26:57 GMT Organization: QUALCOMM Lines: 10 Message-ID: <3bvm1h$59n@qualcomm.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: twilli-2.qualcomm.com X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.90.4 A local news reported Friday December 2nd that a woman had seen and video taped what seemed to be a "alien" craft on Monday November 28. The video they showed was at night showing a "craft" in the sky which seemed circular to me. The craft then separated into about four, what appeared to be identicle crafts. Did anyone else see this or know anything about it? What I thought was interesting, and maybe not to anyone else, was that at the end of the segment the newcaster stated "believe your eyes" and to call the station if you see anything at their UFO Hotline. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Yep, somethin' surely is "going on" There apparently were sightings in San Jose, CA and Loiusville KY around the same time with the same lame press release only in KY they used the ol' "It's a weather balloon" story -- I believe they used that one up already in Roswell--Oh well, I guess the Pentagon thinks we'll swallow any old hunk of meat! IMHO I think we'll be seeing alot more "weather balloons" in the near future--just a hunch... Skip Fockelmann ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GSA-Admissions SR Phone: 852-6531 I must admit that I am subscribed to this bulletin board not because I am very educated about UFOs but merely because I am interested in their existence. I believe in them but haven't done much reading. So, please bear with me as I relay the following. It is interesting that mention was made in a previous posting to the KY sightings. The sightings occurred in Leitchfield, which is approximately 1-2 hours from Ft. Knox, an army base. Local TV stations in Louisville made mention of the sightings in a broadcast but I can find no mention of them in any of the newspapers. Apparently, two objects were spotted. One was a bright light that zig-zagged across the sky. Another was a bright light that had 6 or 7 lights travelling around it in a circle. Could the lights have been from some type of night maneuver being performed at Ft. Knox? Of course, if it WAS Ft. Knox, why wouldn't people living in Bullitt Co., the county where the base is located, have reported seeing any strange lights? I live in Bullitt Co. and we hear the blasting from maneuvers all the time. I justhought some of this rambling might prove interesting. Thanks. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Hello Bryan & Lisa, >Do you happen to know when these sightings occurred, was it Friday in Kentucky during the day, or late Thursday night, perhaps? >Thomas Bergen > The "news flash" was shown on Friday during the day, but the event had taken place on Thursday night. The video showed a disk/orb of light, plus 4 other lights surrounding & flying around it in patterns, each one with a different look to it. The story was not repeated on any newscast. Please let us know anything you find out about this... L & B. P.S. This newscast was _not_ related to the meteor sighting in southern Cal., which dominated the news reports Friday night. Bryan Gibson-Winge ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo Path: news1.is.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!dadams From: dadams@netcom.com (Dean Adams) Subject: Re: strange sighting in San Diego, CA Message-ID: Organization: Worldwide Pants, Inc. References: <3bt0m7$ifh@newsbf01.news.aol.com> <3bu4op$ot5@pandora.sdsu.edu> <3bvhvg$nlf@hptemp1.cc.umr.edu> Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 21:29:35 GMT Lines: 11 In article <3bvhvg$nlf@hptemp1.cc.umr.edu> djenkins@rocket.cc.umr.edu (Dennis Jenkins) writes: >I friend of mine who has firnds working for the gov't in southern cal. at >the china lake (or something like that) air field said that they were >testing a stealth bomber. China Lake is the home of the Naval Air Warfare Center. Its certainly possible that the B-2 was doing some flying at their range, but the B-2 is definitely not responsible for any sort of sonic boom type activity. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!fnnews.fnal.gov!unixhub!news.Stanford.EDU!yasumura From: yasumura@leland.Stanford.EDU (Kevin Youl Yasumura) Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors Subject: ---> Dec 4th UFO Sighting (?) <--- Date: 7 Dec 1994 00:45:21 GMT Organization: Stanford University, CA 94305, USA Lines: 33 Message-ID: <3c30j1$nq@nntp.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: elaine38.stanford.edu This post is in response to someone who said they saw a green flash on the night of Dec 4th. I was driving toward Berkeley at around 9-9:45 when I too saw a green flash come down from the sky. I didn't imagine it either cause my girlfriend saw it also. It came down at around 35 degrees to the horizonal measured downwards. I was heading west on I80. I only saw it come down--I didn't see any 'bounces' cause they would have been hidden by the foot- hills. I'm not sure what it was but now I know we weren't the only ones who saw it. I doubt it was a UFO--just a bit interesting. Does anyone know of any natural phenomena that could explain such an event? It looked like a green ball with a long tail. I'd say it was ball lighting but I'm not sure what atmospheric conditions would cause such a large amount of green light--polution perhaps? The only gas that I can think of off the top of my head that emits radiation in the visible green spectrum is neon (doubt there was that much in the sky). I know of some metals that burn green though. If anyone knows of any sulfur or carbon compounds that burn green that could perhaps explain it. I also know that the oil refineries in that area emit tons of Selenium based compounds--but my info says that those emissions are limited to water based polutants--I'm sure if they release them into the atmosphere as well. I'd be interesting to here what anyone out there has to say--especially if they saw it also. Bye. Kevin Yasumura yasumura@leland.stanford.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news.sprintlink.net!pipex!sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk!susx.ac.uk!mpfd8 From: mpfd8@central.susx.ac.uk (Robert Wood) Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo,alt.alien.visitors Subject: Re: ABC News video of Kentucky sighting...? Followup-To: alt.paranet.ufo,alt.alien.visitors Date: 6 Dec 1994 10:39:14 GMT Organization: University of Sussex Lines: 37 Message-ID: <3c1f0i$c58@infa.central.susx.ac.uk> References: <3dgraph-0212942353350001@3dgraph.slip.netcom.com> <3bq64t$h54@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> <3bs8lg$bsr@en.com> <3bv4sq$j9k@hermes.louisville.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: solx1.central.susx.ac.uk X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news1.is.net alt.paranet.ufo:14230 alt.alien.visitors:47966 Eric W. Taylor (ewtayl01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu) wrote: : In <3bs8lg$bsr@en.com> ak35@en.com (Andrew J. Kurtz) writes: : >: In San Jose, the NBC news brief at 9:00PM mentioned the sighting of : >: UFO's by hundreds of people and video. This was a very quick brief and : >: they said to tune in at 11:00 for details, which I did. Not a mention : >: of the sightings! Turned on the TV this morning and nothing. We can : >: start a new news blackout conspiracy!!! : >: Gene Cisneros : >The San Jose event was a bright fireball -- IFO to the many : >amateur astronomers who saw it. : Around 10 O'Clock people started seeing a moving, bright white light high in : the sky. The police confirmed the report and several officers also saw it. : It lastest for about an hour. Once news got out on police radio, people with : scanners went out to look at it and therefore a hundred or so people saw it. I am a bit of a skeptic when it comes to UFO's, but I have to say that I don't think that you can dismiss things glibly with explanations that involve (a) Phenomena that are neither understood or fully accepted as genuine themselves, and (b) Phenomena which if they do exist are not inclined to behave in a way that would mimic the unexplained observation. To whit, 'fireballs'. What the hell is a fireball? An astronomical body burning up on entry to the atmosphere? Nope- it will not last an hour. Ball lightning? Nope- neither understood nor proven to exist (although lots of evidence I think), but a very short lived phenomenon, not on the scale of an hour. So I would like to ask these amateur astronomers what sort of an amateur explanation is 'fireball'. These are the sort of reports in the press that are accepted by the general public, yet are sometimes more incredible than the 'alien visitors' explanations. Rob ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!rhf.bradley.edu!augustana.edu!james-cueno From: james-cueno@augustana.edu (James F. Cueno ) Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo,alt.alien.visitors Subject: Re: ABC News video of Kentucky sighting...? Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 16:04:21 GMT Organization: Augustana College Lines: 4 Message-ID: References: <3dgraph-0212942353350001@3dgraph.slip.netcom.com> <3bq64t$h54@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> <3bs8lg$bsr@en.com> <3bv4sq$j9k@hermes.louisville.edu> <1994Dec6.005101@academia.swt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 143.226.131.51 Xref: news1.is.net alt.paranet.ufo:14237 alt.alien.visitors:47982 I just checked with the astronomy program that we have here (SkyGlobe 3.5, I think) and ran the entire month of December at 10:00 PM from Lexington Kentucky and Mars will not be visible at that time, in that location until after Christmas. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!swiss.ans.net!hermes.louisville.edu!ulkyvm.louisville.edu!LPMUNC01 From: LPMUNC01@ulkyvm.louisville.edu Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo,alt.alien.visitors Subject: Re: ABC News video of Kentucky sighting...? Date: Tue, 06 Dec 94 11:44:18 EST Organization: University of Louisville Lines: 17 Message-ID: <17084A51FS85.LPMUNC01@ulkyvm.louisville.edu> References: <3dgraph-0212942353350001@3dgraph.slip.netcom.com> <3bq6mk$bt@news.duke.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ulkyvm.louisville.edu Xref: news1.is.net alt.paranet.ufo:14247 alt.alien.visitors:47996 In article <3dgraph-0212942353350001@3dgraph.slip.netcom.com>, 3dgraph@netcom.com (Bryan Gibson-Winge) says: > >Here in L.A., ABC news apparantly aired a report this afternoon about >30-40 UFO reports in Kentucky, and showed some amature video of the >"event". We watched, but this report was not repeated during any >subsequent newscasts. > >Can anyone confirm/deny/clarify this story? > Where in Kentucky was this supposed to have happened? dpk Leitchfield - about 75 miles southwest of Louisville. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!swiss.ans.net!hermes.louisville.edu!starbase.spd.louisville.edu!amnewt01 From: amnewt01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (Plaid Ranger) Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo,alt.alien.visitors Subject: Re: ABC News video of Kentucky sighting...? Followup-To: alt.paranet.ufo,alt.alien.visitors Date: 6 Dec 1994 18:14:14 GMT Organization: Speed Scientific School, University of Louisville Lines: 61 Message-ID: <3c29lm$qs8@hermes.louisville.edu> References: <3dgraph-0212942353350001@3dgraph.slip.netcom.com> <3bq64t$h54@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> <3bs8lg$bsr@en.com> <3bv4sq$j9k@hermes.louisville.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: starbase.spd.louisville.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news1.is.net alt.paranet.ufo:14250 alt.alien.visitors:47999 Eric W. Taylor (ewtayl01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu) wrote: : In <3bs8lg$bsr@en.com> ak35@en.com (Andrew J. Kurtz) writes: : >: In San Jose, the NBC news brief at 9:00PM mentioned the sighting of : >: UFO's by hundreds of people and video. This was a very quick brief and : >: they said to tune in at 11:00 for details, which I did. Not a mention : >: of the sightings! Turned on the TV this morning and nothing. : >The San Jose event was a bright fireball -- IFO to the many : >amateur astronomers who saw it. : >I didn't hear anything about a sighting in KY... : >ak : The sighting was very close to Louisville, Kentucky...just outside...I've : forgotten the name of the town. I live a few miles north in Southern Indiana. I live in Louisville, and it isn't that close. It was in Grayson County (Litchfield, I think). Essentially what follows is exactly what aired on the local news broadcasts. ---Aaron ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news.sprintlink.net!dgs.dgsys.com!dgs.dgsys.com!not-for-mail From: alerma@dgs.dgsys.com (alerma) Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo,alt.alien.visitors Subject: Re: ABC News video of Kentucky sighting...? Date: 6 Dec 1994 13:54:42 -0500 Organization: Digital Gateway Systems Lines: 16 Message-ID: <3c2c1i$io3@DGS.dgsys.com> References: <3dgraph-0212942353350001@3dgraph.slip.netcom.com> <3bs8lg$bsr@en.com> <3bv4sq$j9k@hermes.louisville.edu> <3c29lm$qs8@hermes.louisville.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: dgs.dgsys.com Xref: news1.is.net alt.paranet.ufo:14254 alt.alien.visitors:48007 Re: Fireballs There have been a notable number recently, a few weeks ago, the nightsky in suburban Wash DC lit up to daylight in a flash of a good sized fireball. Was mentioned on TV News here, A few minutes later I saw another long white trailed fireball. And on nights since I've seen 3 more. Not your cute ohhhhhh-there's a meteroite.. Long smoke trails, WIDE smoke trails, very bright. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news.sprintlink.net!malgudi.oar.net!witch!warlock.win.net!warlock.win.net!not-for-mail From: bugs@warlock.win.net (Mark Hittinger) Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo,alt.alien.visitors Subject: Re: ABC News video of Kentucky sighting...? Date: 6 Dec 1994 10:59:38 -0500 Organization: WIN.NET mail and news Lines: 21 Message-ID: <3c21pa$csc@warlock.win.net> References: <3dgraph-0212942353350001@3dgraph.slip.netcom.com> <3bq64t$h54@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> <3bs8lg$bsr@en.com> <3bv4sq$j9k@hermes.louisville.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: warlock.win.net X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #2 (NOV) Xref: news1.is.net alt.paranet.ufo:14255 alt.alien.visitors:48008 ewtayl01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (Eric W. Taylor) writes: >The sighting was very close to Louisville, Kentucky...just outside...I've >forgotten the name of the town. I live a few miles north in Southern Indiana. Just a quick thought I wonder if the 1. Failed Ariane 70 launch 2. Sightings in Florida/KY AND 3. A big lump of metal falling on some woman's house in Lexington, KY (destroying her front door) are related? I haven't really check the time line on these events but i wonder if some of Ariane 70 came back the hard way? :-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!swiss.ans.net!hermes.louisville.edu!starbase!ewtayl01 From: ewtayl01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (Eric W. Taylor) Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo,alt.alien.visitors Subject: Re: ABC News video of Kentucky sighting...? Date: 6 Dec 1994 21:49:53 GMT Organization: University of Louisville, Louisville KY USA Lines: 14 Message-ID: <3c2ma1$3dq@hermes.louisville.edu> References: <3dgraph-0212942353350001@3dgraph.slip.netcom.com> <3bq64t$h54@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> <3bs8lg$bsr@en.com> <3bv4sq$j9k@hermes.louisville.edu> <1994Dec6.005101@academia.swt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: starbase.spd.louisville.edu X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #2 (NOV) Xref: news1.is.net alt.paranet.ufo:14268 alt.alien.visitors:48036 In james-cueno@augustana.edu (James F. Cueno ) writes: >I just checked with the astronomy program that we have here (SkyGlobe 3.5, I >think) and ran the entire month of December at 10:00 PM from Lexington >Kentucky and Mars will not be visible at that time, in that location until >after Christmas. That eliminates mars. Question: Are there any other planets that could have appeared so much larger than stars? Question 2: What good are weather balloons if you don't track them? Eric ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo,alt.alien.visitors Path: news1.is.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!dadams From: dadams@netcom.com (Dean Adams) Subject: Re: ABC News video of Kentucky sighting...? Message-ID: Organization: Worldwide Pants, Inc. References: <3bs8lg$bsr@en.com> <3bv4sq$j9k@hermes.louisville.edu> <3c21pa$csc@warlock.win.net> Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 21:21:11 GMT Lines: 16 Xref: news1.is.net alt.paranet.ufo:14269 alt.alien.visitors:48037 In article <3c21pa$csc@warlock.win.net> bugs@warlock.win.net (Mark Hittinger) writes: >I wonder if the > 1. Failed Ariane 70 launch > 2. Sightings in Florida/KY > AND > 3. A big lump of metal falling on some woman's house in > Lexington, KY (destroying her front door) >are related? No. >I haven't really check the time line on these events but i wonder if >some of Ariane 70 came back the hard way? :-) It came back hard all right, but it landed in the South Atlantic ocean. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!rhf.bradley.edu!augustana.edu!james-cueno From: james-cueno@augustana.edu (James F. Cueno ) Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo,alt.alien.visitors Subject: Re: ABC News video of Kentucky sighting...? Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 00:58:58 GMT Organization: Bradley University Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: <3dgraph-0212942353350001@3dgraph.slip.netcom.com> <3bq64t$h54@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> <3bs8lg$bsr@en.com> <3bv4sq$j9k@hermes.louisville.edu> <1994Dec6.005101@academia.swt.edu> <3c2ma1$3dq@hermes.louisviOrganization: Augustana College NNTP-Posting-Host: 143.226.98.36 Xref: news1.is.net alt.paranet.ufo:14275 alt.alien.visitors:48043 In article <3c2ma1$3dq@hermes.louisville.edu> ewtayl01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (Eric W. Taylor) writes: >That eliminates mars. Question: Are there any other planets that could have >appeared so much larger than stars? Another quick consultation with SkyGlobe (TM, copyright and all that other applicable jazz) gave me these quick notes about the Louisville sky's view of the planets from about 20:00 December 3 to 08:00 December 4 (if that is in fact the night in question, I'm still a little fuzzy over when this happened): ~20:10 Neptune sets in WSW ~20:20 Uranus sets in WSW ~23:10 Mars rises in ENE ~23:55 Saturn sets in WSW ~04:40 Venus rises in ESE ~06:40 Jupiter rises in ESE ~07:30 Mercury rises in ESE ~07:50 Sun rises in ESE Now, Neptune and Uranus aren't visible to the naked eye and Mercury was very likely obscured in the Sun, possibly along with Jupiter. Someone mentioned reported sightings in the early morning hours of December 4... Venus? It is at its brightest right now, if I recall. Though this doesn't help the sightings from the night before.... Can someone confirm my times? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo Path: news1.is.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!shivasys!megabyte From: megabyte@shivasys.com Subject: Re: abc news video of kentucky sighting...? Message-ID: <9412062148.0UN5000@shivasys.com> Organization: Shiva Systems X-Mailer: TBBS/PIMP v3.23/PRIMP 1.56p Distribution: world Date: Tue, 06 Dec 94 21:48:45 Lines: 8 Yes I live here in kentucky. I can't say I saw them,Wish I could, But there was a report about UFO sighting here in the Louisville area. The report aired here for one news break. And then I never heard of it again. I didnt even get to see and Videos. You saw more than most people in Kentucky.... James ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 12/8/94 Hi ? It is the first time I am writing a mail to list. I want to mention that, 10 days ago I saw flying red light in sky. Its speed just like sliding star (I don't know exact words). But color is red, not a bright star shining. I know that no plane can fly such a that speed. My question is that Is this a just meteor or anything else. Zafer I know nothing, I do nothing. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uunet!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: manboy@aol.com (ManBoy) Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo Subject: Re: strange sighting in San Diego, CA Date: 8 Dec 1994 00:10:08 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 32 Sender: news@newsbf01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3c64fg$718@newsbf01.news.aol.com> References: <3bt0m7$ifh@newsbf01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf01.news.aol.com In article <3bt0m7$ifh@newsbf01.news.aol.com>, skipshell@aol.com (SKIPSHELL) writes: >Anyone have any information on a supposed UFO sighting or meteor over San >Diego, CA on 12/3/94--There was a brief news report on T.V. around 6:00pm. >But nothing in any papers today (12/4/94) and no further mentions on any >news. I was sitting on my couch in Los Angeles when I just happened to look out the window and saw a large colorful light fly across the sky. (I believe it was between 9 and 10:00 pm on Friday, 12/3/94.) I remember seeing a green glow around it -- like a large firework. I went out on my balcony to see if someone was shooting off fireworks but none followed. Later, I heard a commercial on TV saying something like "strange lights over L.A. -- more at 11!" Unfortunately, I fell asleep before the news came on. The next day I looked in the L.A. Times thinking there would be something about it but found nothing. I later turned on the news at 5:30 (Saturday) and saw a report of how it was a meteor and it was sighted as far down as San Diego and that they believed it crashed into the Pacific ocean. On Sunday, I *really* searched the L.A. Times for an article and _again_ found nothing. Which seems really odd to me because it was quite spectacular. And big! This was no little mini streak across the sky that you needed a telescope to observe. I thougt it was a firework! Whatever it was, I think it's terribly strange that the only major newspaper in Los Angeles didn't cover it (or if they did, heaven knows where they buried it). Anyone else see it? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!caen!news.tc.cornell.edu!newsserver.sdsc.edu!nic-nac.CSU.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!ucssun1!srau From: srau@ucssun1.sdsu.edu (Stafford A. Rau) Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo Subject: Re: strange sighting in San Diego, CA Date: 8 Dec 1994 15:32:03 GMT Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences Lines: 35 Message-ID: <3c78tj$fsc@pandora.sdsu.edu> References: <3bt0m7$ifh@newsbf01.news.aol.com> <3c64fg$718@newsbf01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ucssun1.sdsu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL0] I missed it (big sigh for effect here), but I did see a very short article about it the next morning in our journalistic masterpiece, the San Diego Union Tribune. Just a couple of eye witness accounts, and a suggestion that it was probably a meteor. ManBoy (manboy@aol.com) wrote: : I was sitting on my couch in Los Angeles when I just happened to look out : the window and saw a large colorful light fly across the sky. (I believe : it was between 9 and 10:00 pm on Friday, 12/3/94.) I remember seeing a : green glow around it -- like a large firework. I went out on my balcony : to see if someone was shooting off fireworks but none followed. Later, I : heard a commercial on TV saying something like "strange lights over L.A. : -- more at 11!" Unfortunately, I fell asleep before the news came on. -- Stafford A. Rau Senior Data Control Technician srau@ucssun1.sdsu.edu Admissions and Records srau%anr@sdsu.edu San Diego State University ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news.sprintlink.net!pipex!uunet!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: manboy@aol.com (ManBoy) Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors Subject: Re: ---> Dec 4th UFO Sighting (?) <--- Date: 8 Dec 1994 00:15:14 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 11 Sender: news@newsbf01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3c64p2$73f@newsbf01.news.aol.com> References: <3c30j1$nq@nntp.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf01.news.aol.com In article <3c30j1$nq@nntp.Stanford.EDU>, yasumura@leland.Stanford.EDU (Kevin Youl Yasumura) writes: >This post is in response to someone who said they >saw a green flash on the night of Dec 4th. > I was driving toward Berkeley at around 9-9:45 >when I too saw a green flash come down from the sky. >I didn't imagine it either cause my girlfriend saw it also. Are you sure it wasn't December 2 -- Friday? Because I saw it, too. Green flash and all and in the same time period in Los Angeles! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors Path: news1.is.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!nott!cunews!freenet.carleton.ca!FreeNet.Carleton.CA!bc456 From: bc456@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Mike Anttila) Subject: Re: ---> Dec 4th UFO Sighting (?) <--- Message-ID: Sender: bc456@freenet3.carleton.ca (Mike Anttila) Reply-To: bc456@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Mike Anttila) Organization: The National Capital FreeNet References: <3c30j1$nq@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 1994 02:24:04 GMT Lines: 22 > I'm not sure what it was but now I know we weren't > the only ones who saw it. I doubt it was a UFO--just a bit > interesting. Does anyone know of any natural phenomena that > could explain such an event? It looked like a green ball > with a long tail. I'd say it was ball lighting but I'm not > sure what atmospheric conditions would cause such a large > amount of green light--polution perhaps? The only gas that > I can think of off the top of my head that emits radiation > in the visible green spectrum is neon (doubt there was that > much in the sky). I know of some metals that burn green > though. If anyone knows of any sulfur or carbon compounds > that burn green that could perhaps explain it. Copper Sulphate burns green. -Mike -- PsychoMan/Axidental | "To: saving human race from total Internet: bc456@freenet.carleton.ca | extinction - no charge." Fidonet: Mike Anttila 1:163/416 | -Dirk Gently ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news.sprintlink.net!neon.house.gov!skaeser!ZZZ From: ZZZ@cais.com (Steven Kaeser) Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors Subject: Re: ARe: FireBalls over Washington Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 13:24:41 GMT Organization: House Information Systems Lines: 45 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 137.18.202.17 X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B] In article Klara.Hankai@telos.org (Klara Hankai) writes: >From: Klara.Hankai@telos.org (Klara Hankai) >Date: 07 Dec 94 20:01:53 -0500 >Subject: Re: ARe: FireBalls over Washington >In [(INT) ALT.ALIEN.VISITORS] on <06 Dec 94 13:54>, alerma wrote to All: > al> From: alerma@dgs.dgsys.com (alerma) > al> Subject: Re: ABC News video of Kentucky sighting...? > al> Date: 6 Dec 1994 13:54:42 -0500 > al> Organization: Digital Gateway Systems > al> Message-Id: <3c2c1i$io3@DGS.dgsys.com> > al> Re: Fireballs > al> There have been a notable number recently, a few weeks ago, > al> the nightsky in suburban Wash DC lit up to daylight in a flash > al> of a good sized fireball. > al> Was mentioned on TV News here, > al> A few minutes later I saw another long white trailed fireball. > al> And on nights since I've seen 3 more. > al> Not your cute ohhhhhh-there's a meteroite.. > al> Long smoke trails, WIDE smoke trails, very bright. >........maybe they're testing the shields around the capitol ? Interesting. I live in the DC area and heard nothing of this (and I tend to be a news freak). I was transporting my son back to college in Pennsylvania in mid November when I saw a fireball of some sort in the sky near the MD/PA border in the mountains. It was quite large and was watchable for about 20 seconds before it went below the tree line. Other cars on the highway also saw it, and slowed down, but no one stopped or lost control in shock. It did not exert any strange behkavior, so there is no reason to believe that it was anything other than a meteorite. At the proper angle, meteors can remain visable for more than a minute as they cross the sky. As far as the "shields" suggestion. I only wish it were true. Those of us who work down here know we are sitting in a primary target and wish there was some scientific marvel that could keep us safe. But recent events have shown how vulnerable we really are around the White House, and the Capitol complex is probably more so. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uunet!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: raknas@aol.com (Raknas) Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors Subject: Re: UFOs In N.C. Date: 10 Dec 1994 13:00:29 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 8 Sender: news@newsbf01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3ccqbt$ked@newsbf01.news.aol.com> References: <39bec3$9n4@news.bu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf01.news.aol.com In article <39bec3$9n4@news.bu.edu>, tnhill@bu.edu (Traci Hill) writes: In southeast Wake County i know of several possible sightings. And the interesting thing is that There are two 2000ft TV Towers in the Auburn area. These are the tallest towers the are allowed in the United States. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news.sprintlink.net!pipex!sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk!susx.ac.uk!sefa4 From: sefa4@central.susx.ac.uk (Richard Price) Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors Subject: Dec 4th UFO Sighting (?) Date: 12 Dec 1994 10:26:19 GMT Organization: University of Sussex Lines: 4 Message-ID: <3ch8gb$gks@infa.central.susx.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: solx1.central.susx.ac.uk X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Just for info - I was starwatching on night of 3rd December (southern England at about 11p.m.) and saw a similar green-burning meteor (no doubt at all that it was a meteor).It was heading from approx north into the south,silvery green trail,a good blazer! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors Path: news1.is.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!darkstar.UCSC.EDU!news.hal.COM!decwrl!netcomsv!netcom.com!orcinus From: orcinus@netcom.com (Russell Hockins) Subject: Re: Green Flash Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 04:27:56 GMT Lines: 28 garrison (garrison@freenet.hut.fi) wrote: : Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 12:28:47 -0800 : From: William D. Loughman : To: Multiple recipients of list SKEPTIC : Subject: Green Flash : The Dec 4th "UFO" could also have been ... a "green flash". This is a : natural but uncommon sight when the sun is rising or setting. It is due : to refraction, like with a prism, wherein sunlight is separated into its : component colors. Under favorable circumstances the green component can : be seen directly or by reflection from clouds or mountains. A good : reference is Minaert: "Light and Color in the Open Air", once republished : by Dover. It is a very old book. I do hope that reference is correct as : to title and spelling of the author's name. My copy is lost. Also, : quite a few years ago, either in Scientific American or maybe American : Scientist, there were stunning pictures of the phenomenon. The work, I : think, of a priestly astronomer at the Vatican Observatory. Again, my : copy is lost. : I have myself seen this several times in the last thirty years, also : usually from a vantage point in the Berkeley (Calif.) hills, at sunset. : -wdl (wdl@netcom.com) This would be true if observed over water. The green flash is only visible over water. It has to do with the refraction of light through the water. That is why you will not see it at sunrise. It also must be an exeptionally clear day [ don't get many of those any more ]. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!paladin.american.edu!auvm!ACAVAX.LYNCHBURG.EDU!elston Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo Message-ID: <00988F0C.1B97FBEA.18@ACAVAX.LYNCHBURG.EDU> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 18:51:02 EST Sender: "Gateway to alt.paranet.ufo" From: ZAC Subject: Blackout? Lines: 6 ABC just reported a six state balckout on the west coast including British Columbia. They reported that the cause of the blackout was unknown and 'just happened'. Anybody on the west have more info? Zac Elston Elston@acavax.lynchburg.edu WebSpinner net.work \'net-.w*rk\ n often attrib 1: a fabric or structure of cords or wires that cross at regular intervals and are knotted. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!hookup!olivea!uunet!news.gttw.com!agordie From: agordie@jax.gttw.com (Alan Gordie) Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors Subject: Blackouts on West Coast CBS NEWS Date: 15 Dec 1994 16:30:32 GMT Organization: Jax Gateway to the World Lines: 16 Message-ID: <3cpqv8$a13@news.gttw.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: jax.gttw.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] anyone know anything about the report on 12/14/94 Wednesday evening CBS NEWS regarding unexplainable blackouts on the West Coast from Montana down to New Mexico and out to the West Coast Shore? a friend of mine here at work was asking if i had heard anything on the 'net... i would appreciate any information you have... Keep watching the skies.... :-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!paladin.american.edu!auvm!ACAVAX.LYNCHBURG.EDU!elston Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo Message-ID: <0098901F.7F54EE2C.13@ACAVAX.LYNCHBURG.EDU> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 03:42:21 EST Sender: "Gateway to alt.paranet.ufo" From: ZAC Subject: blackout II Lines: 14 regarding my post yesterday asking if anybody knew more about the blackout on the west coast.. there was a brief blurb in the Washington Post today (which I don't have at the moment) that stated the 8 state blackout (some areas were only affected for a few secondes...others a few hours) was caused when a 60 mile strech of supply lines shorted....problem was that there were no breaks in the line and the EC was stumped. They comented that "bird dropings" might be the cause. Zac Elston Elston@acavax.lynchburg.edu WebSpinner net.work \'net-.w*rk\ n often attrib 1: a fabric or structure of cords or wires that cross at regular intervals and are knotted. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!hookup!olivea!news.hal.COM!decwrl!netcomsv!netcom.com!lowtek From: lowtek@netcom.com (BSTaylor) Subject: Re: Blackouts on West Coast CBS NEWS Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <3cpqv8$a13@news.gttw.com> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 23:05:13 GMT Lines: 14 Alan Gordie (agordie@jax.gttw.com) wrote: : anyone know anything about the report on 12/14/94 Wednesday evening CBS : NEWS regarding unexplainable blackouts on the West Coast from Montana : down to New Mexico and out to the West Coast Shore? Hello. The blackout in question happened when a large amount of power was being transferred from the southern region of the Grid to the northern. A little north of Fresno, CA, something blew. The north had too little power, South CA and back into the midwest states had too much, causing overloading and blowouts. At least this is what we are being told. Lowtek ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!agate!news.ossi.com!not-for-mail From: quentin@ossi.com (Quentin) Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors Subject: Re: Blackouts on West Coast CBS NEWS Date: 15 Dec 1994 16:48:58 -0800 Organization: Fujitsu Open Systems Solutions, Inc. Lines: 19 Message-ID: <3cqo5q$3v9@loki.ossi.com> References: <3cpqv8$a13@news.gttw.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: loki.ossi.com agordie@jax.gttw.com (Alan Gordie) writes: >anyone know anything about the report on 12/14/94 Wednesday evening CBS >NEWS regarding unexplainable blackouts on the West Coast from Montana >down to New Mexico and out to the West Coast Shore? Apparently, a glitch in the grid near Fresno is what's disrupting electrical service to certain cities in seven states. I wouldn't call them blackouts--we've only lost electricity very briefly the few times it's happened. The problem area in the grid is several miles long, I understand. Quentin -- "I've dreamt in my life dreams that have stayed with me ever after, and changed my ideas; they've gone through and through me, like wine through water, and altered the color of my mind." E. Bronte ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!openwx!eskimo!nanook From: nanook@eskimo.com (Robert Dinse) Subject: Re: Blackouts on West Coast CBS NEWS Message-ID: Summary: Blackouts... Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever References: <3cpqv8$a13@news.gttw.com> <3cqo5q$3v9@loki.ossi.com> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 11:18:04 GMT Lines: 47 In article <3cqo5q$3v9@loki.ossi.com>, quentin@ossi.com (Quentin) writes: > agordie@jax.gttw.com (Alan Gordie) writes: > > >anyone know anything about the report on 12/14/94 Wednesday evening CBS > >NEWS regarding unexplainable blackouts on the West Coast from Montana > >down to New Mexico and out to the West Coast Shore? > > Apparently, a glitch in the grid near Fresno is what's disrupting > electrical service to certain cities in seven states. I wouldn't > call them blackouts--we've only lost electricity very briefly the > few times it's happened. The problem area in the grid is several > miles long, I understand. The blackouts WERE blackouts, it lasted TWO HOURS here north of Seattle. (This is by no means a record, we've had local blackouts that lasted three days a couple of winters ago, and it's unusual not to get at least one close to a day each year here). So far I've heard three different explanations. The first, and the one that makes the most sense was that the nuclear generating plant at Diablo Canyon went offline and as a result they suddently and unexpectantly lost 2gw of generating capacity from the grid. Automatic load shedding equipment then disconnected many substations up and down the coast. The next one was that a sub-station in Bakersfield was damaged by a fire and resulted in a surge that caused many substations to disconnect. The third was that a mysterious "surge" (no explained cause) in a transmission line in California (sorry don't remember the location) caused many substations to disconnect. What caused the Nuke plant at Diablo Canyon to go offline they didn't say (probably something minor like a meltdown). Nah, must have been aliens sucking power from the plant or grid, or maybe Godzilla was hungry. UFO's sucking power from power grids seems like a popular theme. Never could understand what a craft that just flew halfway across the Galaxy could possibly gain from few minutes of juice from our distribution grid. I mean, it's like powering a 747 from a flashlight battery. -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- Eskimo North: More Unix, Usenet, Internet for Less $$ (206)For-Ever Eskimo.Com Free two-week trial, login as "new". For more info email: nanook@eskimo.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 22:21:52 -0500 X-Sender: jdonovan@is.net Mime-Version: 1.0 To: alt.paranet.ufo From: jdonovan@is.net (Jackson Donovan) Subject: Re: Blackouts on West Coast CBS NEWS >> : *****True, they don't need the juice from them, but they do make a >> : fine navigation grid. We follow roads, they follow the power lines, >> : connected to nearly everything.***** >> >> Apparently one reason given for UFOs sucking power from the power >> >> grid is that sometimes the UFO has some type of malfunction and needs >> to get a quick "jump start" of free electrons from the power grid to >> keep from crashing. *****It's called "Flashing the Fields". It is a quick and easy way to purify the outer field containment walls. This is of cource the main enertial outer field, not the inner cohesion field (this is the one that prevents living things from liquifying into a puddle during acceleration and non-ballistic manuevers). Let's stretch the old imagination one step further. The fuel used is water, but not for fusion. Anybody want to guess what the main process is? I'll give you a hint. The water is kept in containment structures, in multiples of three. Ma-Di***** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!news.starnet.net!wupost!uhog.mit.edu!news.kei.com!newshost.marcam.com!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!olivea!news.hal.COM!decwrl!netcomsv!netcom.com!dadams From: dadams@netcom.com (Dean Adams) Subject: Re: Blackouts on West Coast CBS NEWS Message-ID: Organization: Worldwide Pants, Inc. References: <3cpqv8$a13@news.gttw.com> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 11:06:45 GMT Lines: 9 In article <3cpqv8$a13@news.gttw.com> agordie@jax.gttw.com (Alan Gordie) writes: >anyone know anything about the report on 12/14/94 Wednesday evening CBS >NEWS regarding unexplainable blackouts on the West Coast from Montana >down to New Mexico and out to the West Coast Shore? P.G.& E. had a systems/grid failure of some sort... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!news.ossi.com!not-for-mail From: quentin@ossi.com (Quentin) Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors Subject: Re: Blackouts on West Coast CBS NEWS Date: 16 Dec 1994 14:08:56 -0800 Organization: Fujitsu Open Systems Solutions, Inc. Lines: 16 Message-ID: <3ct35o$e13@loki.ossi.com> References: <3cpqv8$a13@news.gttw.com> <3cqo5q$3v9@loki.ossi.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: loki.ossi.com nanook@eskimo.com (Robert Dinse) writes: > The blackouts WERE blackouts, it lasted TWO HOURS here north of Seattle. I apologize. I should have said that here in the Bay Area, CA, the outages were brief. I didn't realize they lasted longer in other states. Best regards, Quentin -- "I've dreamt in my life dreams that have stayed with me ever after, and changed my ideas; they've gone through and through me, like wine through water, and altered the color of my mind." E. Bronte ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!news.duke.edu!godot.cc.duq.edu!newsfeed.pitt.edu!uunet!world!snet From: snet@world.std.com (Glenda M Stocks) Subject: ANOMALOUS SUPER-ORB Message-ID: Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 05:09:51 GMT Lines: 28 This is a UFO Report. My younger daughter, Stephanie, 18, was driving home with her boyfriend at 4:15 a.m. (don't ask), taking a lonely very rural road outside of San Andreas, Calaveras County, CA, on Dec. 6. Suddenly she and Robert noticed a very large luminous orangish globe up in the dark sky, altitude "high" but undetermined, following them. The size of the UFO was such as to be comparable to a soccer ball held at arm's length, i.e., much larger than the full moon! The object paced them to Calaveritas, pop. 25, then went up a river canyon, and around a side canyon, and "met" them near the house, still overhead. When they pulled in the driveway of her mother's house, the object proceeded past the back yard and hung over a river canyon south of the other side of the property. It remained there about an hour. Stephanie and Robert felt spooky while the object followed them, and couldn't sleep for a while. - Rich Boylan --- SuperBBS 1.17-3 (Reg) * Origin: QST 2 / MUFONET / Sacramento, CA - V22 916 922-1288 (88:4602/730) === ß RM 1.3 00257 ß The world is coming to an end. Please log off. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Hello Zac, >I saw your post recently and would like to ask you if you'd mind forwarding any information you've been able to glean on the subject, my way. >I missed the newspaper yesterday, and have seen or heard absolutely nothing about this. Check page A2 col.1 of Dec 15 Washington Post. It's the only thing I have found. Not much detail either. There seems to be a news blackout on the subject as well. Zac Elston Elston@acavax.lynchburg.edu WebSpinner net.work \'net-.w*rk\ n often attrib 1: a fabric or structure of cords or wires that cross at regular intervals and are knotted. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!prairienet.org!szinski From: szinski@prairienet.org (Steve Zinski) Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors Subject: SIGHTING OVER MICHIGAN!? Date: 22 Dec 1994 15:24:31 GMT Organization: Prairienet, the East-Central Illinois Free-Net Lines: 11 Message-ID: <3dc5nf$7rr@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: firefly.prairienet.org X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I just heard on the radio (Paul Harvey show 12/22) that a woman and a State Trooper witnessed an unknown craft flying overhead. According to the news report, the woman video taped 5 minutes of footage of the craft. Has anyone heard/seen any more on this report? -- ================================================================= == Steven C. Zinski - N9VAH == szinski@prairienet.org == == Champaign, Illinois, USA == N9VAH@N9LNQ.#ECIL.IL.USA.NA == ================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news1.oakland.edu!saturn.acs.oakland.edu!mgschall From: mgschall@saturn.acs.oakland.edu (Michael G. Schall) Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors Subject: Re: SIGHTING OVER MICHIGAN!? Date: 22 Dec 1994 15:49:32 GMT Organization: Oakland University, Rochester, Michigan, U.S.A. Lines: 32 Message-ID: <3dc76c$2s6@oak.oakland.edu> References: <3dc5nf$7rr@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: saturn.acs.oakland.edu In article <3dc5nf$7rr@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> szinski@prairienet.org (Steve Zinski) writes: >I just heard on the radio (Paul Harvey show 12/22) that a woman and a State >Trooper witnessed an unknown craft flying overhead. According to the news >report, the woman video taped 5 minutes of footage of the craft. > >Has anyone heard/seen any more on this report? Heard this on a morning show here in Detroit. The DJs were talking to a state trooper (I believe). He said the object was 60 ft. in diameter with lights all around it. The woman who first saw it said it was hovering at tree-top level for a time then moved farther away. A trooper arrived on the seen after being called and observed the object with binoculars. The womans neighbor arrived with a videocam and recorded the object. The trooper on the radio(who wasn't the one on the seen) said they were trying to contact the Air Force since three jets were seen in the area. The total time the object was observed was 20 minutes. The trooper said the tape has been released to the media and that it was shown last night in Cadillac, Mich. Also, the DJ specifically asked if this was another Santa Claus sighting stunt. The trooper said absolutely no. ***************************************************************** Michael G. Schall mgschall@vela.acs.oakland.edu Scindite jugular aorum ***************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!caen!cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu!34r33o7 Organization: Central Michigan University Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 12:21:30 EST From: Robert A Rawlinson <34R33O7@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> Message-ID: <94356.12213034R33O7@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors Subject: Re: SIGHTING OVER MICHIGAN!? References: <3dc5nf$7rr@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Lines: 3 I don't know anymore than you reported although they did show the video on Traverse City Mi TV channels 9 & 10. I don't know if a copy can be obtained. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!news.cac.psu.edu!news.pop.psu.edu!hudson.lm.com!tusk.lm.com!not-for-mail From: raver909@telerama.lm.com (Joe LeSesne) Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo,alt.paranet.science,alt.ufo.reports Subject: Strobing? Date: 23 Dec 1994 03:10:26 -0500 Organization: Telerama Public Access Internet, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 49 Message-ID: <3de0li$rca@tusk.lm.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tusk.lm.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news1.is.net alt.paranet.ufo:15111 alt.paranet.science:1504 alt.ufo.reports:208 Ok, Within a day several reports from friends and family have come to me. Two from staunch skeptics of the paranormal. Some backrounmd info: I and all parties concerned live in Pittsburgh, PA and one night my sister was on her way inside her house when this very bright light shown on her. There was no source she could pinpoint, just an extremely bright light which was tight (only shown on her and a small area surrounding her), the light apperared to come from a low angle but as she said for the short time it was on she couldn't pinpoint it. Her fiancee' is a real skeptic and he had the same thing happen to him on the way into the house. Blindingly bright light which stayed on for about a second and had a tight focus. Light too bright to pinpoint in such a short period of time. THEN tonight (or this morning) the very same thing happened to a friend of mine in my driveway (the other incidents happened at my the couple's house which is mile from here). Anyway he too is a big skeptic of the paranormal yet he yelled for me and asked "Did you see that? Did you see that!" To which I responded, "See what?" and he related the same details as above but he said the light had a somewhat greenish color. I then told him about my sister and soon to be brother-in-law's sighting. Some nights before we were in my driveway and spot a craft (won't call it a plane yet) which had 3 lights on it in a triangular formation and a red "beacon" light underneath. Now what drew our attention to it was it's wobbly motion at first. It seemed like it was floating like a falling leaf. (since we live on a flight path to the Pittsburgh Internation Airport which is about 3 miles away, we see planes and helo's all the time). We ran out into the street to get a better view and at the same time it came out from the trees it was behind at a fairly rapid (but still within normal aircraft flight characteristics) speed. The craft seemed to be at about 2,000 feet but it is hard to estimate distances at night. All the while no sound was heard until it was directly above us. It slowed and paused in mid-air for a second and emitted a real low but audible rumble which seemed to come on instantaneous, as if someone said "OK, turn on the sound". Most jets, civilian and military are pretty loud at this height when they are directly above you. Anyway all of us agreed it was strange but pretty much agreed that it was somekind of military aircraft. We could see a faint outline of an elongated, acute triangle with rounded edges but it was very faint the only wreason I think we saw it was because the underside reflected no light and the backround was brighter due to the clouds. Had this been a clear night I doubt we would have detected an outline. Anyway, has anyone else had any sightings of unusual nature in this area recently? If so let me know. Joe ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!psuvax1!hsdndev!dartvax.dartmouth.edu!usenet From: Maura.R.Jones@dartmouth.edu (Maura R. Jones) Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors Subject: Sighting in Hanover, NH 12/22. 9p.m. By Maura Jones Date: 23 Dec 1994 18:12:38 GMT Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH Lines: 9 Message-ID: <3df3um$o95@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: at-3-sn-9.dartmouth.edu X-Posted-From: InterNews 1.0.2@dartmouth.edu A Flying Ship was seen in the heavens on the slope of Moose mountain. The ship was a disk with two lights and a sonar sound was audible before the ship hovered, and the lights split apart. I felt the presence of beings and then heard a cooing from them that I returned. The beings were felt to be sending a caring energy to help the world heal and to enable us to work together on building a more loving world. The message was that there are ways to renew and resolve to extend our joy and strength to those who benefit. We are all one and the posibilities are endless. A Loving Christmas to All ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uunet!newstf01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: proeme@aol.com (Proeme) Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo Subject: Michigan Sighting 12/21/94 Date: 23 Dec 1994 14:01:55 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 10 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3df6r3$8np@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: proeme@aol.com (Proeme) KGO Radio in San Francisco aired a report about the sighting near Kingsley, MI. They interviewed the state policeman who saw the "cylinder about 60' long"....I read a posting about it this morning on this newsgroup...can't find it now...I called my aunt who lives in that part of Michigan and she said there was a brief news spot about it...then nothing... Any one with any info please leave a message. Thank you ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!pipex!uunet!newstf01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: tracey1885@aol.com (Tracey1885) Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo Subject: Re: Michigan Sighting 12/21/94 Date: 23 Dec 1994 16:16:17 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 44 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3dfen1$9gg@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <3df6r3$8np@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: tracey1885@aol.com (Tracey1885) On Wednesday, December 21, 1994, a UFO was sighted over Kingsley, Michigan, Near Traverse City. WJBK-TV, Detroit's Fox affiliate, reported the incident on the 7:00am news broadcast on December 23, 1994. The object, described by witnesses as "pulsating, hovering lights in the sky", was a " cylindrical mass with a large number of individual lights that appeared to be connected by softer light running between them", and remained visible for 90 minutes. The object was seen early in the morning by Tracy Shayda, it was hovering over her house. She called her neighbor who shot a video of the object. She stated that she had seen a similar object around Thanksgiving, but did not report it. Michigan state trooper Glenn Guldner watched the object for about 20 minutes. He stated, "I really don't know, for sure, what it was. I've been on several 'lights in the skies' complaints, usually ends up being an airplane, Northern lights, or something like that, but, this is the first time I've actually seen an object in the daylight." On Shayda's report, the trooper went on to say, "She thought for sure everyone would think she was nuts. Prior to my getting there, the object was a lot closer, it came to within treetop height of her house." He also said the object looked similar to the space craft in the movie "Close Encounters of the Third Kind". In October, about fifteen miles northwest of the area, two other people saw an object in the sky, they reported it to police and the description was similar to the object sighted in Kingsley. [The WJBK-TV news report was used as a source for this text] Tracey1885@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news1.oakland.edu!saturn.acs.oakland.edu!mgschall From: mgschall@saturn.acs.oakland.edu (Michael G. Schall) Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors Subject: Re: News report of 12/21/94 Michigan sighting Date: 23 Dec 1994 22:03:11 GMT Organization: Oakland University, Rochester, Michigan, U.S.A. Lines: 10 Message-ID: <3dfhev$cpu@oak.oakland.edu> References: <3dfe6h$9el@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: saturn.acs.oakland.edu Last night on WDIV-TV's news they say that an Eastern Michigan University professor explained the object away as the planet Venus. ***************************************************************** Michael G. Schall mgschall@vela.acs.oakland.edu Scindite jugular aorum ***************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!pipex!uunet!newstf01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: tracey1885@aol.com (Tracey1885) Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors Subject: Re: News report of 12/21/94 Michigan sighting Date: 23 Dec 1994 20:44:42 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 11 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3dfuea$aq5@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <3dfhev$cpu@oak.oakland.edu> Reply-To: tracey1885@aol.com (Tracey1885) >Last night on WDIV-TV's news they say that an Eastern Michigan >University professor explained the object away as the planet >Venus. I saw that too. The Prof. didn't quite explain how Venus hovered over the woman's house at "tree top height" according to the police officer who witnessed the incident, or the witnesses claims of a cylindrical object, hovering, covered with a large number of individual lights. Tracey1885@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!pipex!uunet!newstf01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: vankan@aol.com (Vankan) Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors Subject: Re: SIGHTING OVER MICHIGAN!? Date: 24 Dec 1994 01:07:31 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 4 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3dgdr3$ci3@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <3dc5nf$7rr@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Reply-To: vankan@aol.com (Vankan) Yes i saw the tape. The object was a shaped like a globe. it did not move for 90 min. then it just vanished. The local news around detroit reported it as being venus. also about 3 weeks ago there was a Mich. ufo sighting in Coldwater (no details on that one. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!paladin.american.edu!auvm!ACAVAX.LYNCHBURG.EDU!elston Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo Message-ID: <00989563.152251FE.7@ACAVAX.LYNCHBURG.EDU> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 20:28:44 EST Sender: "Gateway to alt.paranet.ufo" From: ZAC Subject: Re: Michigan Sighting 12/21/94 Lines: 11 > Anyone who hears more please post. I wonder what will happen to the >video tape, they said the authorites were looking at it. OH...good catch. Call the station which reported the sighting and ask for their source. Try and get the Officers name and contact him/her about the tape that was made and who has it now. Zac Elston Elston@acavax.lynchburg.edu WebSpinner net.work \'net-.w*rk\ n often attrib 1: a fabric or structure of cords or wires that cross at regular intervals and are knotted. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!pipex!uunet!newstf01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: proeme@aol.com (Proeme) Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo Subject: Re: Michigan Sighting 12/21/94 Date: 24 Dec 1994 11:49:00 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 4 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3dhjds$ejj@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <3dfen1$9gg@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: proeme@aol.com (Proeme) Thanks for the response...was there any other follow-up articles or stories...I have not seen anything on the Media about this sighting. I would appreciate any further updates. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!agate!darkstar.UCSC.EDU!news.hal.COM!decwrl!netcomsv!scicom!paranet!f8.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG!Bill.Chalker From: Bill.Chalker@f8.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Bill Chalker) Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo Subject: Recent reports Message-ID: <13887.2EFBFE38@paranet.FIDONET.ORG> Date: 23 Dec 94 04:15:01 GMT Sender: ufgate@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (newsout1.26) Organization: FidoNet node 9:1040/8 - References: <3dj82i$hvg@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: lisab9207@aol.com (Lisab9207) I saw the video on the news. By the time she had gotten her video camera out it had moved quite a bit further away. The video showed a very bright light (brighter than a star or Venus as other news reports stated it might have been) and the object was hovering (non-stationary) but it was hard to tell the camera was jerking around a little. The local college astronomer said the object was much too large to be a Venus and he stated that 50% of the story seemed explainable but the other 50% and the video he couldn't explain away as atmospheric or definable. He was just as perplexed as the rest of us. No one can explain where the military jets came from. Local people got no answers from the michigan bases or the one close enough in Wisconsin. The airport said they had nothing on radar. Most people I've talked to think it was one of ours that sort of got away. That's all I've heard so far but if anything else turns up I'll post it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.ufo.reports Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!joeshea From: joeshea@netcom.com (Joe Shea) Subject: Fireball Lights Up California Sky Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] Date: Wed, 28 Dec 1994 14:59:22 GMT Lines: 18 HUGE FIREBALL LIGHTS UP CALIFORNIA SKIES by Joe Shea Californians from Los Angeles to Sacramento and others as far west as Reno, Nevada reported seeing a huge greenish fireball with a distinct, glowing green, red and white tail streak across the night skies at about 8:30 PST last night. One Lancaster, CA man said the light was "as big as a Greyhound bus, three or four miles away," while another man called the light "blinding." Police across the state reported hundreds of calls from startled residents. Officials at Griffith Observatory in Los Angeles said the object was apparently a large meteorite. Observers said it lit up the entire sky in its brief passage across the heavens. No impact was reported. -30- -- joeshea@netcom.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov!nntp-server.caltech.edu!fido!dlp From: dlp@fido.caltech.edu (Deborah L. Padgett) Newsgroups: sci.astro Subject: Re: Bolide/Fireball - central California Date: 27 Dec 1994 05:43:54 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Lines: 30 Distribution: na Message-ID: <3do9iq$qut@gap.cco.caltech.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: fido.caltech.edu Summary: bright flash, double sonic boom Location: Big Pine California, in the Owens Valley What we saw: While watching television a very bright flash lit up the entire Eastern Sierra mountain range brighter than the full moon. I saw the flash from inside a brightly lit house, looking out toward the west. The source of the flash must have been generally from the east, since the all the snowfields of the eastern sierra lit up without shadowing. I did not see the bolide directly. We searched the dark night sky here for any residual clouds and found none. What we heard: About 90 sec after the flash, we heard a sharp double sonic sonic boom. It was followed by a low rumbling that slowing died away. I have attended many space shuttle landings, and this double-boom was very similar to the sonic booms made by the space shuttle (and nearly as loud). The time interval between the two booms seemed shorter than the shuttle, indicating that an object smaller than the length of the shuttle orbiter was producing the sound. Reasoned speculation: A meteorite about 50 feet across would be consistent with the time interval between the sonic booms. From the time delay between the flash and the booms, the bolide probably struck within 30 miles of my location, somewhere generally to the east. Karl Stapelfeldt and Don Padgett at the Owens Valley Radio Observatory ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!nic-nac.CSU.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!mintaka!jmcd From: jmcd@mintaka.sdsu.edu (John McDonald) Newsgroups: sci.astro Subject: Meteor, California Date: 28 Dec 1994 18:10:21 GMT Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences Lines: 22 Message-ID: <3ds9md$fab@pandora.sdsu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: mintaka.sdsu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Well, i suppose i was one of many people who saw the fireball on the night of Dec 26, around 8:15 Pacific time... We saw it from a car travelling east in Santa Cruz. What i saw was a yellowish fireball from about 30 degrees above the eastern horizon which brightened to about mag -7. It had a red glow about it as it faded behind the Santa Cruz Mountains. My friend who was with me swears she saw colors of green in it, though i couldn't confirm that. It was quite spectacular! John -- ======================================================================= | `A society of "astronomers" would be, || John McDonald | | at least on paper, better capable of || SDSU Dept of Astronomy | | gauging the proportions of our || jmcd@mintaka.sdsu.edu | | existential dilemmas.' ==Paolo Soleri || | ========================http://mintaka.sdsu.edu/students/jmcd/JMCD.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!pipex!uunet!newsflash.concordia.ca!canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca!rutkows From: rutkows@cc.umanitoba.ca (Chris Rutkowski) Newsgroups: alt.ufo.reports Subject: Hungariam UFO and other phenomena Date: 29 Dec 1994 20:59:47 GMT Organization: The University of Manitoba Lines: 73 Message-ID: <3dv803$1pl@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: mira.cc.umanitoba.ca Summary: Article about Hungarian phenomena Keywords: Hungary,UFO ......................................................................................... From alt.alien.visitors Thu Dec 29 14:58:12 1994 Path: canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca!newsflash.concordia.ca!utcsri!utnut!torn!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!demon!cix.compulink.co.uk!asm332 Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors From: asm332@cix.compulink.co.uk (Sean Eaton) Subject: ARTICLE: Martians replace Marx as Hungary seeks new beliefs Cc: asm332@cix.compulink.co.uk Reply-To: asm332@cix.compulink.co.uk X-Posting-Host: tom.compulink.co.uk Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 18:16:00 +0000 Message-ID: Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk Lines: 55 The following article appeared in The London Times yesterday, Wednesday 28 December 1994: MARTIANS REPLACE MARX AS HUNGARY SEEKS NEW BELIEFS From Adam LeBor in Budapest Aliens have surveyed Szolnok and one of their ships has been hovering above the Hungarian city. The vehicle flew several hundred feet above ground before its bright light dimmed and it changed shape, apparently due to advanced technology not yet available on Earth. "There was a light ten times as bright as Venus, 300 metres high, with an unbelievable flight path, tracing zeds in the sky," UFO Magazine said. Mock this news about a close encounter of the Hungarian kind at your peril because the story's author, Gyorgy Keleti, is now Hungary's Defence Minister. His brief also encompasses the negotiation of Hungary's entry into Nato under the auspices of the Partnership for Peace programme as well as monitoring more esoteric threats to Hungarian security. UFO Magazine is one of many manifestations of Eastern Europe's growing interest in the paranormal. Witchcraft, unidentified flying objects and the occult are growth industries in a region where many people are dazed and confused by the transition from communism and capitalism. The old certainties of Marx and Lenin have been replaced with new beliefs. Every main Hungarian city has a UFO society and this year the country hosted an international UFO conference. "People don't care about political parties shouting at each other, they are fed up with politics. But these phenomena are interesting because they are unexplainable and they are miracles," said Sandor Pusztay, the editor of UFO Magazine. Many Hungarians in search of such miracles can be found at the Red Raven witchcraft studio in Pest. The studio's waiting room is full every day with people seeking answers to life's problems from Jozsef Meszaros, Hungary's chief witch, for a price. Red Raven offers ritual magic, love spells, curse removal and reincarnation hypnosis at prices ranging from 2,000 forints to 10,000 forints (12UKP to 60UKP [$18 to $90]). Mr Meszaros says he has 8,000 members in his "church", which is registered as a religion in Hungary although his more established rivals frown on it. "The Bishop of Esztergon told his congregation to have nothing to do with us. The same night the cathedral roof caught fire and they have not identified a cause," the chief witch said. Profits from the studio, set up in 1991, will go towards the witch's temple. "It is not necessary to have a church, witches can work out of the room, but it is a matter of prestige. Professional witchcraft rituals are difficult to organise in small east European flats," said Mr Meszaros. The studio sells 72 kinds of polarised water, each of which, it is claimed, can cure a different disease. However, the Ministry of Health said the water was identical to normal water and brought legal proceedings against the studio. --- Sean. -- Chris Rutkowski - rutkows@cc.umanitoba.ca University of Manitoba - Winnipeg, Canada ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!nic-nac.CSU.net!cello.gina.calstate.edu!cello.gina.calstate.edu!not-for-mail From: jmosley@cello.gina.calstate.edu (John Mosley) Newsgroups: sci.astro Subject: Central California Fireball Date: 28 Dec 1994 21:52:02 -0800 Organization: GINA and CORE+ Services of The California State University Lines: 53 Message-ID: <3dtiq2$sdd@cello.gina.calstate.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: cello.gina.calstate.edu Fireball over central California, December 26, 1994 preliminary report from Griffith Observatory, Los Angeles 213-664-1181 phone 213-663-8171 fax email: jmosley@cello.gina.calstate.edu A spectacular meteor (fireball) was seen over California and Nevada from the Los Angeles area to Reno, and as far west as Redding and San Francisco, at about 8:15 p.m. PST on December 26. People reported seeing sparks, smoke and the colors blue, white, green and yellow. Many callers along the flight path reported (and some insisted) that it landed very close to them. It was first seen while east of the Palm Springs/Riverside area, traveling northwestward. It was last seen from Mammoth. It seems to have traveled over the California desert from a point east of Barstow, passing west of Death Valley and toward Reno. The Reno airport control tower reports that it was observed by pilots near the town of Beatty, Nevada who saw it travel NW along the California-Nevada border; one pilot saw it extinguish at an estimated height of 31,000 feet. An observer in the San Francisco area also saw it sputter out. A report from Big Pine, 15 miles south of Bishop, places the fireball to the east (the person saw a brilliant flash that lit up the mountains and heard sonic booms reminiscent of a Space Shuttle landing). We conclude it ended its flight roughly 30-40 miles east of Bishop, California near the California-Nevada border. The object was apparently traveling nearly parallel to the ground. It is unknown if any solid objects survived the long passage through the atmosphere (at last 250 miles). [Apparently a second fainter fireball was seen an hour later moving eastward over southern California.] The Observatory solicits reports from people who saw this fireball near its ending point. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!mintaka!jmcd From: jmcd@mintaka.sdsu.edu (John McDonald) Newsgroups: sci.astro Subject: Re: Central California Fireball Date: 29 Dec 1994 19:17:00 GMT Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences Lines: 18 Message-ID: <3dv1vc$lh5@pandora.sdsu.edu> References: <3dtiq2$sdd@cello.gina.calstate.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: mintaka.sdsu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] John Mosley (jmosley@cello.gina.calstate.edu) wrote: : Fireball over central California, December 26, 1994 : It was first seen while east of the Palm Springs/Riverside area, : traveling : northwestward. from Santa Cruz, it was travelling apparently directly east... john -- ======================================================================= | `A society of "astronomers" would be, || John McDonald | | at least on paper, better capable of || SDSU Dept of Astronomy | | gauging the proportions of our || jmcd@mintaka.sdsu.edu | | existential dilemmas.' ==Paolo Soleri || | ========================http://mintaka.sdsu.edu/students/jmcd/JMCD.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!pipex!uunet!newstf01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail FFrom: motah@aol.com (Motah) Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo Subject: Miami UFO sighting Date: 30 Dec 1994 17:08:38 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 9 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3e20d6$pv9@newsbf02.news.aol.com Reply-To: motah@aol.com (Motah) On local CBS-affiliate TV station on the evening of December 29, 1994, there was a report on a sighting in Kendall (south Miami), Florida. Occurred a couple of weeks ago, at night, witnessed by several people. Bright, orange, round light seen traveling slowly in sky. Definitely not a plane. Was videotaped. Full footage shown on TV. Similar to other nighttime videotapes I've seen. It was reported that the videotape was given to local UFO investigators (possibly MUFON?) to study. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!gatech!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!zmonster FFrom: zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson) Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo,alt.ufo.reports Subject: ***UFO SIGHTINGS IN MICHIGAN*** Date: 29 Dec 1994 23:49:13 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Lines: 56 Message-ID: <3dvhtp$gj4@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: carbonara.mit.edu Xref: news1.is.net alt.paranet.ufo:15400 alt.ufo.reports:233 Roughly one week ago, a number of people in the Traverse City area of Michigan (NW Michigan - lower peninsula) witnessed a supposed UFO in the evening hours. What makes this sighting unique is that it is collaborated by Michigan State Police officers who also witnessed the craft. Additionally, a fairly detailed video tape was shot of the UFO for several minutes. Part of the tape was shown on the evening news in Detroit (I did not see the tape). The UFO was described as saucer shaped, with a circle of lights along the bottom of the craft. It had four very bright lights shining up on it's hull. State Police described it as looking exactly like the ships seen in "Close Encounters of the Third Kind". The UFO hovered one foot above tree level for 10-15 minutes before instantly shooting upwards several hundred feet, and then finally zipping away at enormous speed, out of sight. A video tape was recorded by a Traverse City resident that lasted approx. 10 minutes. This tape is believed to be some of the most convincing evidence for the existence of UFOs. Additionally, on Christmas morning, a Lansing, Michigan resident shot a separate video of another alleged UFO in the morning sky. This video was also featured on the local Detroit newscast. A Michigan UFO Expert named Wayne Erickson indicated that there has been a flurry of UFO reports in Michigan in the recent weeks, most of them being located in western Michigan. Both Traverse City and Lansing are located towards the western side of the state. FOR MORE INFORMATION (Don't write me, what's above is all I know): -Contact the Michigan State Police Traverse City and/or Lansing Posts. TThrough the freedom of information act, you can obtain a copy of the police report filed by the state policemen who witnessed the UFO in Traverse City. The area code in Traverse City is 616. The area code in Lansing is 517. Call information for the telephone numbers. -Contact the TV News in Detroit that reported on the stories WWJBK TV, Channel 2. Their number is 810-557-2000. -Contact the Mutual UFO Network Their experts were interviewed on Detroit TV this week. I don't know their number or location. They are a national group. -Contact The J. Allen Hynek Center for UFO Studies in Chicago (on W. Peterson) TThey are a large UFO research group. -Contact Omni Magazine in New York They also have a large UFO research group Again, it's no use writing me, I don't know any more than what I have written. Eric Hermanson ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!pipex!uunet!newsflash.concordia.ca!canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca!rutkows From: rutkows@cc.umanitoba.ca (Chris Rutkowski) Newsgroups: alt.ufo.reports Subject: More Michigan UFO info Date: 2 Jan 1995 14:53:20 GMT Organization: The University of Manitoba Lines: 92 Message-ID: <3e9410$lv8@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: mira.cc.umanitoba.ca Summary: More info on Michigan UFOs Keywords: Michigan,UFO .......................................................................................... From alt.misc.forteana Mon Jan 2 08:49:10 1995 Path: canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca!newsflash.concordia.ca!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!news2.near.net!news.delphi.com!usenet From: CULTLEADER@delphi.com Newsgroups: alt.misc.forteana Subject: UFO - Kingsley (MI.), 12/23/1994 Date: 2 Jan 1995 00:34:10 GMT Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation Lines: 76 Message-ID: <3e7hm2$s01@news1.delphi.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bos1g.delphi.com From the Traverse City Record-Eagle - 12/23/94 MYSTERIOUS FLYING OBJECT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A PLANET The mysterious object seen in the sky Wednesday am over Kingsley could have been a planet, a Northwestern Michigan College astronomy instructor said Thursday. "If I were forced to bet, I'd bet it was Jupiter," said Dick Cookman, after viewing a videotape of the object. "But it would be a cautious bet." Kingsley resident Tracey Cejda reported seeing an object Wednesday when she let her dogs out at 6:30 am. A neighbor, Michael Stelter, caught the image on video. State police Trooper Glenn Guldner arrived at her house sometime after 7:30 am and observed the image, assisted by binoculars, for 20 minutes. Cookman, after studying Stelter's video, said there are some aspects to the case that support the Jupiter theory and some aspects that don't. On Wednesday morning at 6:30 am, Jupiter would have been three degrees above the horizon in the southeastern sky. By 7:30 am, it would have risen to 11-1/2 degrees above the horizon. That could explain why the object appeared to be at treetop level when Dejda first saw it and why it appeared higher in the sky by the time Guldner arrived. Also, when planets appear low on the horizon they can appear to change color, to twinkle, and to move, he said. Those effects are caused by light refraction, especially when there is a lot of humidity in the air. In fact, for the last several decades, reports of UFO sightings rise whenever a planet is low on the horizon, he said. However, Cookman was surprised at how large the object appeared on the videotape. With an image that large, he would have expected to see some detail that did not appear, such as the bands of the planet and the four moons of its moons that are visible to the naked eye. "But that could just be because of a blurred image," Cookman said. Cedja and Guldner remained convinced Thursday that they had not watched a planet. When Cedja first saw the object, it appeared to be three times as large as her barn. She said a range of emotions ran through her, including both fright and excitement. Guldner also said Thursday he was sure it wasn't a planet he saw. Stelter was out of town Thursdaym, but Cedja said she was sure he would say it wasn't a planet. "Nobody else can understand what we three experienced because they weren't out there with us," she said. Guldner noted in his police report that three military-type jets flew past the object and that the lights on the object went out as the jets passed by. He said Thursday afternoon he had not yet tried to identify the jets. They were not military jets from anywhere in Michigan or from a base in Toledo, Ohio, said Major Jerold Foehl, public affairs officer at Camp Grayling. Foehl checked with those bases Thursday and learned they had no jets in the air Wednesday morning. The story was widely reported in the news media Thursday. Radio commentator Paul Harvey mentioned it. The Weekly World News, a grocery store tabloid in Florida, began working on the story. The media reaction was overwhelming and somewhat frightening to Cejda. She arrived home from work Thursday to find some 20 messages on her answering machine. Some were friendly, but some were rude. A radio deejay cracked what seemed to her to be a crude joke about whether a missing blow-up doll happened to have flown over her house. Another called asked if she was seeking fame and fortune. Actually, what she wants is a restored sense of privacy, Cejda said. "I would just like my life to get back to normal," she said. Rainbow V 1.08 for Delphi - Test Drive -- Chris Rutkowski - rutkows@cc.umanitoba.ca University of Manitoba - Winnipeg, Canada ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From CNI News - Volume 2.1 January 4, 1995 "CYLINDRICAL MASS" UFO REPORTED BY MICHIGAN STATE POLICE Reported by Hildebrand Communications, Inc. for United Press International December 22, 1994 Kingsley, Michigan, December 21, 1994 (UPI) - A Michigan State Trooper responding to a woman's UFO report Wednesday confirmed seeing "a cylindrical mass, with a large amount of individual lights." A 5-minute videotape shot by the woman and broadcast on local television provided additional evidence that something was indeed out there, police said. "This one is apparently a valid report," said one of the trooper's superiors, State Police Sgt. Bill Sholten. "He is credible. I saw the tape and there was definitely something out there," Sholten said. The trooper, who asked not to be identified because he doesn't want publicity, reported seeing three military jets in the area while the UFO was near. His report also noted that after the siting, a request for information was turned down by the U. S. Air Force for unknown reasons. A Regional Air Traffic Control Center in Minnesota reported spotting something on radar screens to support the report. A woman who lives on a farm near Kingsley said she saw the object hovering above her barn at 6:30 am EST, December 21st. She called police about an hour later and the trooper arrived at about 7:45 a.m. The trooper watched the UFO through binoculars until it disappeared about 20 minutes later. The woman, who got a closer look at the UFO, described the object as about three times larger than her barn, or some 60 feet in diameter. She also said it had white and blue lights and what appeared to be a haze surrounding it. Sholten said the woman told police she saw a similar UFO on Thanksgiving, but didn't tell anyone "because she was afraid everyone would think she was nuts." [Thanks to Sheldon Wernikoff for these additional details] WJBK-TV, Detroit's Fox affiliate, reported the incident on the 7:00am news broadcast of December 23, 1994. The following is based on WJBK's story. Eyewitnesses said they saw "pulsating, hovering lights in the sky" and a "cylindrical mass with a large number of individual lights that appeared to be connected by softer light running between them." The lights remained visible for 90 minutes. The object was seen early in the morning of Dec. 21 by Tracy Shayda, who said it was hovering over her house. She called her neighbor, who shot a video of the object. Michigan state trooper Glenn Guldner watched the object for about 20 minutes. He stated, "I really don't know, for sure, what it was. I've been on several 'lights in the skies' complaints, usually ends up being an airplane, Northern lights or something like that, but this is the first time I've actually seen an object in the daylight." Of Shayda's report, the trooper went on to say, "She thought for sure everyone would think she was nuts. Prior to my getting there, the object was a lot closer. It came to within treetop height of her house." In October, about fifteen miles northwest of the Kingsley area, two other people saw an object in the sky which they reported to police. Their description was similar to the object sighted in Kingsley. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From CNI News - Volume 2.1 January 4, 1995 UPDATE: SAN DIEGO UFO SEEN BY NEWS REPORTERS by Marie Jones A news team from San Diego's Channel 39 TV went to nearby Vista, California on December 29 to interview with the main witnesses of a UFO which had been captured on a 12-minute videotape in late November (see "SAN DIEGO SIGHTINGS CAUGHT ON VIDEO," CNI News, Dec 29, 1994). As the news reporter and cameraman arrived, the very same object appeared over the horizon and began moving across the sky, much to the amazement of nine witnesses present. The television reporter and cameraman scrambled to set up their camera in hopes of catching the UFO live on film, but it disappeared before they were ready. The reporter, Mark Walton for Channel 39 San Diego news, did, however, admit on camera to seeing the object; and his news report was shown that night, the next morning, and the following afternoon. MUFON North County received two other calls from additional witnesses after the news story ran, including one woman in the Poway area (much further inland) who reported seeing a similar brightly glowing orb outside her window for half an hour around 3:00am two days prior. MUFON North County is awaiting the results of video and photo analysis of the Vista UFO videotapes. The investigation is continuing. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!caen!cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu!34r33o7 Organization: Central Michigan University Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 08:05:11 EST From: Robert A Rawlinson <34R33O7@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> Message-ID: <95004.08051134R33O7@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors Subject: Re: More on Michigan Sighting (FWD) Lines: 3 The video I saw on channel 9 showed a definit disk. I can not believe it could have been a planet. They zoomed back and forth from a light to a disk. It did not appear to be out of focus. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From UFO-L, 1/4/95 Hello all, I hope everyone had a great holiday season. Just a short note about lights I saw in the sky over the holidays. On two different occasions I saw, along with my family, a bright fast strobing light moving very slowly from east to west and then return the same direction. I noticed the light after getting on the road to go to town; it was still doing its "thing" when I got to town and went in the store to do some shopping. It look very similar to a video I saw on Encounters of a supposed UFO. Very fast flashing and very bright. BTW, a jet flew near it and there was an easy comparison and there was no comparison. Particulars: I live about 20 miles east of Athens, GA. I was driving in to Athens, the time was about 7 PM. What I saw was to the west of my position, but not sure of distance - it was just a light and seemed to have altitude. Technically, I was driving Southwest and the light was moving SE to NW and returns. Other sighting was similar, only I was alone, and the time was much later. Have heard reports from friends and friends of friends of sightings of a triangle shapped craft in the area. People don't really report seeing the craft, but sensing it and seeing the stars blocked by it. They say that you can sort of see it against the sky. I saw the triangle fly over my house at about 200 feet about 3 years ago. It was about 8 PM, there was a faint hum associated with it, but the sound was barely audible, I seemed to sense it more than hear it. I would guess, pretty accurately, that the size of the craft was 150-200 feet on a side. The moon was partial and below the horizon so the sky was light, but still plenty of stars. I heard/sensed the hum, looked that direction and saw the shape. It moved very slow. There were lights on the end, which I could see after it passed. I'm still not sure that this was not some type of stealth craft of the government, although it seemed to fly very slow. Hard to imagine something that large flying that slow - lift and all of that - no rotor noise. It was solid, it did block out stars and you could sense a shape against the lighter sky. I live in Northeast Georgia, about 75 miles East by Northeast of Atlanta, about 30 miles from the Savannah River, 1 mile from the Broad River, in Madison Co. Except for a period during the '70s, this area as far as I have known has not been a hot bed of sightings. Maybe '95 will be a bumper year. Pat Patrick K. Frye BITNET - PKFrye@UGA INTERNET - PKFrye@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!pipex!uunet!news.uiowa.edu!blue.weeg.uiowa.edu!blue.weeg.uiowa.edu!mmorriso From: Morrison Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo Subject: Re: School Boys Saw Fireball Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 11:28:39 -0600 Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA Lines: 125 Distribution: world Message-ID: ................................................ >From p@cosmos.pc.mySun Jan 1 09:09:17 1995 >Date: Fri, 30 Dec 94 21:41:03 GMT=20 >From: p < p@cosmos.pc.my> >Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo >Subject: School Boys Saw Fireball > > >News from Malaysia > > >Two occurence of fireball spotted in the sky in Kelantan, Malaysia. > >1st event was on 23rd December 1993 spotted by Zaharuddin Majid, 42 >and Lee Che Keong, 34 at Air Panas, Jeli (district and town in >Kelantan). > >2nd event was on 24th December 1994 spotted by >Mohd Shafri Rizal Muhammad Nasir (long name huh!?), 13 >in Kota Bharu (capital state of Kelantan, Malaysia). > >An officer from the Astro-Science Division, Prime Minister >Department, Mohd Zamri Shah Mastor said that it was a 'fireball'. And >it wasnt a comet and not or a meteor. > >Anyone out there please explain, besides meteor or comet is there >anything from the outer space which is called 'fireball'. > >>> I posted in APUFO a similar sighting to the one which you described above. I had one response... I was told it was probably a meteorite. I do not think a meteorite was what I saw. I lived in Port Townsend,WA and was driving into town with my daughter. Port Townsend is on the Puget Sound and to get to the waterfront area you have to descend some very steep bluffs. I had just started descending what is the most precipitous road into town when I observed a large glowing round object streaking from north to south trailing a large fiery tail. The time was around 6:00 PM. I have seen many meteorites in my lifetime. This was not a meteorite. My first thought was that the military was spending tax dollars. The most unusual aspect of this object was that it traveled from when I first saw the object(about Mount Baker to Mount St. Helens) parallel(no noticeable loss of altitude) to wherever it went down in just a few seconds. It appeared to go down at about Mount St. Helens, but I am not sure about where it landed. This object was very large. Now, when I say large, I mean like half the height of what I could see of the Cascade Mountain range from my point of view in Port Townsend, WA. I did not know that the object was that large until the following day when I read in the Seattle Post Intelligencer that many people had seen an object streak over the Cascade Mountains. Everything in Washington is BIG. The mountains, the trees, Port Townsend Bay, etc. The grand scale of the scenery from where I was viewing this object would not allow me to accept the enormous proportions of this large fiery object. I thought that the globe had traveled out somewhere over the Puget Sound. When I read that the object was actually over the Cascade Mountains... from Port Townsend I could see probably the top three fourths of the Cascade Range... I was shocked. If the object was say only a fourth the size of Mount Rainier, that would have been one huge mass streaking across the Washington sky. I thought that when something that large impacted, that there would be an explosion on the scale of a nuclear blast at the point of impact. I do not think that it was a meteorite. The Seattle Post Intelligencer contacted SEA-TAC to find out if they had seen anything on radar... they said that they had not. I sort of forgot about the incident until one Sunday there was a poorly done documentary on *strange happenings* on TV. I happened to tune in just as they were discussing the UFO incident that I had witnessed. The commentator said that this sighting was one of the most famous and well documented sightings in UFO history. Apparently annually people go to some spot in the Cascades to talk about what they saw. Why are there not any discussions in APUFO about this incident? Maybe the incident was only famous to the makers of the documentary. I don't know, but the UFO that I saw that night was not like any meteorite that I have ever seen. Was your sighting anything like the one which I observed in about Sept. of 1975? (I can't remember the exact date). D.S. Morrison Citizen13@aol.com mmorriso@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu Here is a peculiar little cut from a file that was previously posted to AAV... >From has2bec@cabell.vcu.eduWed Dec 21 23:47:49 1994 >Date: 18 Dec 1994 22:54:00 -0500 >From: "Brooke E. Colquhoun" >Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors >Subject: To the apples we salt, we return. > >Exerpts from a book called The Saucers Speak! > A Documentary Report of Interstellar Communication > by Radiotelegraphy > by George H. Williamson and Alfred C. Bailey >New Age Publishing Company >Copyright, 1954 >"The so-called meteor seen Sunday over your area was us. It was a >ball-globe being on its duty. We will be seen in the skies often. >But do not strain to see us. When it is right for you to view, >you will." D.S. Morrison Citizen13@aol.com mmorriso@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu So many moments stuck staccato like on a blue velvet sky glistening tear drops on a frozen distant shore patiently waiting ...purpose. Citizen13 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!pipex!uunet!newsflash.concordia.ca!canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca!rutkows From: rutkows@cc.umanitoba.ca (Chris Rutkowski) Newsgroups: alt.ufo.reports Subject: San Diego UFO Date: 31 Dec 1994 20:48:29 GMT Organization: The University of Manitoba Lines: 32 Message-ID: <3e4g2t$9uv@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: leia.cc.umanitoba.ca Summary: San Diego fireball Keywords: California,UFO .................................................... From alt.paranet.ufo Sat Dec 31 14:47:04 1994 Path: canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca!newsflash.concordia.ca!news.mcgill.ca!mcrcim.mcgill.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!ucsnews!ucssun1!handog From: handog@ucssun1.sdsu.edu (Ed) Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo Subject: UFO SIGHTED OVER SAN DIEGO 12/29 Date: 31 Dec 1994 08:53:47 GMT Organization: San Diego State University Computing Services Lines: 15 Message-ID: <3e366r$4id@gondor.sdsu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 130.191.1.100 X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL0] On December 29, 1994, a local tv news station, KNSD recorded an object, circular in shape, white bright lights emitting what looked like fall out from fireworks, but on a much larger scale. The object seemed to "split" into other tiny fragments, with the larger piece remaining in the same position. One moment later the object disappeared. This occurred at 11:15 p.m. pacific time. The newscaster reported that it happened 45 minutes earlier that evening, and so they waited until the next occurrence. Field reporters also interviewed some local MUFON researchers, but from the evidence gathered from eyewitness and video accounts proved to be inconclusive. Anyone out there with anymore information on what's been going on in the San Diego area? Bizarre sightings similar to this were reported December 2, 1994, and that following weekend. Sonic booms that began in November, and denied by any local government agency? The supposed "meteor" that hurdled over the Los Angeles area, later reported heading out towards the Pacific Ocean over San Diego? -- Chris Rutkowski - rutkows@cc.umanitoba.ca University of Manitoba - Winnipeg, Canada ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news1.is.net!news5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!ucsnews!ucssun1!handog From: handog@ucssun1.sdsu.edu (Ed) Newsgroups: alt.ufo.reports Subject: UFO SIGHTED OVER SAN DIEGO 12/29 Date: 31 Dec 1994 08:56:29 GMT Organization: San Diego State University Computing Services Lines: 1 Message-ID: <3e36bt$4id@gondor.sdsu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 130.191.1.100 X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL0] Correction to previous article: it occurred on DECEMBER 29, 1994. Sorry! 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